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[Lowako]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It says any run speed greater than SoW. That causes run speed greater than SoW.

Jumping - without alt tab (and at 60fps)- is faster than SoW. You could run the game at around 10~ FPS and get the same benefit if you really wanted to.

Not condoning the use of alt-tab jumping, just explaining how the client works.

[maskedmelon]

Fewer rules and clarifications are better. Instead of scouring rules for loopholes and thinking, "can I get away with this?" people will more often question, "will I get banned for this?" It causes the mind to doubt one's own actions rather than how to legitimize them. Keep rules simple. Keep penalties stiff. Keep people questioning ^^

[Lammy]

Imagine being married to that guy

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, that sentence covers "movement speed buffs" as in spirit of cheetah or scale of wolf instead of SoW. Alt+tab jumping isn't a buff, it's a manipulation of FPS which it says nothing about. Also says nothing about crown of rule jumping, nothing about using lev rings to toggle lev for different spots. It also says nothing about using screen sharing to track.

I'm not condoning the tactic, I'm just pointing out that none of it is covered but awakened just got popped for it, and everyone knows both A/A entities are doing all that shit. Smells fishy.

Usual Chest response. I have no skin in this game anymore. However, I watched the fraps of the races and there was only one person using that trick in their fraps. It was Hjial.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Lowako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jumping - without alt tab (and at 60fps)- is faster than SoW. You could run the game at around 10~ FPS and get the same benefit if you really wanted to.

Not condoning the use of alt-tab jumping, just explaining how the client works.

Try running an entire race for a mob at 10 FPS. See how that works for you.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, that sentence covers "movement speed buffs" as in spirit of cheetah or scale of wolf instead of SoW. Alt+tab jumping isn't a buff, it's a manipulation of FPS which it says nothing about. Also says nothing about crown of rule jumping, nothing about using lev rings to toggle lev for different spots. It also says nothing about using screen sharing to track.

I'm not condoning the tactic, I'm just pointing out that none of it is covered but awakened just got popped for it, and everyone knows both A/A entities are doing all that shit. Smells fishy.

If you can't read the rules correctly. I don't know what to tell you.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Lowako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jumping - without alt tab (and at 60fps)- is faster than SoW. You could run the game at around 10~ FPS and get the same benefit if you really wanted to.

Not condoning the use of alt-tab jumping, just explaining how the client works.

No running your game constantly at 10 fps would be a burden not an advantage. You people are exploiting.

[arsenalpow]

This is why shit needs to be written down and specified for all this loophole shit. It's always been a problem on this server.

When BDA and Taken were first breaking into VP we each lost dragons to Aftermath based on previous rulings that were never spoken about or logged. Taken specifically lost a clean PD because the puller waiter until PD was in LoS at the top of the balcony before jumping instead of just jumping down immediately. Aftermath said it was a stall, referenced some nonsense ruling from back when TMO and IB fought for VP and Sirken swooped in and used that as precedence.

There's nothing in that ruleset saying alt tab jumping isn't legal, just like all the other shit I listed isn't banned either. Both sides are doing this shit, don't play dumb.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is why shit needs to be written down and specified for all this loophole shit. It's always been a problem on this server.

When BDA and Taken were first breaking into VP we each lost dragons to Aftermath based on previous rulings that were never spoken about or logged. Taken specifically lost a clean PD because the puller waiter until PD was in LoS at the top of the balcony before jumping instead of just jumping down immediately. Aftermath said it was a stall, referenced some nonsense ruling from back when TMO and IB fought for VP and Sirken swooped in and used that as precedence.

There's nothing in that ruleset saying alt tab jumping isn't legal, just like all the other shit I listed isn't banned either. Both sides are doing this shit, don't play dumb.

At this point I'm going to go with BDA coming back to P99, Chest still invested in raid scene politics here.

tag so I can find this later: BDA2P99

[JboxCSU]

Yeah more fucking raid rules is exactly what blue needs. Spoken like a true p99 pretend lawyer.