Awakened Banned 10 days

[Vianna]

If he were doing the same thing as Hjial he wouldn't be a mile behind him in that video.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He doesn't have the petition. Actually, the petition was just a request to make this stop on all sides from ALL guilds - Awakened just kept doing it and then finally got caught by staff and then was validated by player fraps. In fact, the petition said specifically "I am not trying to get anyone in trouble, I just want this to stop all around". This followed a conversation Detoxx had with Breaken where they both acknowledged it was happening and Breaken blessed it as fair game.

The problem with Awakened is that they have a "it's not illegal if you don't get caught mentality" and it's been this way since their days as Taken. My best example goes back to Catherin and Auto-Fire, but there are countless examples. I've even spoken to Awakened members that make a case saying that "It doesn't matter if we eat a 10 day suspension - Sirken doesn't delete loot anymore, so we can do whatever we want for an entire raid cycle and then worst case scenario we lose one cycle" - this is actually from a conversation which I had with an old friend of mine and one of their top FTErs.

The mentality trickles down from the leadership to the players, trying to gain the edge at whatever expense. It's no longer about actually getting the mob it's more about the satisfaction of getting away with murder.

If you read this thread, there are no Awakened members criticizing Hijal for using a tactic they knew was manipulative and exploitative, they're simply attacking Aftermath for "Doing it, too". And, that's the problem as it was, as it is, and how it will continue to be.

Poetry

[Leiker]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He doesn't have the petition. Actually, the petition was just a request to make this stop on all sides from ALL guilds - Awakened just kept doing it and then finally got caught by staff and then was validated by player fraps. In fact, the petition said specifically "I am not trying to get anyone in trouble, I just want this to stop all around". This followed a conversation Detoxx had with Breaken where they both acknowledged it was happening and Breaken blessed it as fair game.

The problem with Awakened is that they have a "it's not illegal if you don't get caught mentality" and it's been this way since their days as Taken. My best example goes back to Catherin and Auto-Fire, but there are countless examples. I've even spoken to Awakened members that make a case saying that "It doesn't matter if we eat a 10 day suspension - Sirken doesn't delete loot anymore, so we can do whatever we want for an entire raid cycle and then worst case scenario we lose one cycle" - this is actually from a conversation which I had with an old friend of mine and one of their top FTErs.

The mentality trickles down from the leadership to the players, trying to gain the edge at whatever expense. It's no longer about actually getting the mob it's more about the satisfaction of getting away with murder.

If you read this thread, there are no Awakened members criticizing Hijal for using a tactic they knew was manipulative and exploitative, they're simply attacking Aftermath for "Doing it, too". And, that's the problem as it was, as it is, and how it will continue to be.

Time to drain the swamp.

Permaban cheaters and exploiters!

[arsenalpow]

And I thought my koolaid was strong. I need Detoxx's recipe because whatever Vianna is drinking is that good good shit.

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He doesn't have the petition. Actually, the petition was just a request to make this stop on all sides from ALL guilds - Awakened just kept doing it and then finally got caught by staff and then was validated by player fraps. In fact, the petition said specifically "I am not trying to get anyone in trouble, I just want this to stop all around". This followed a conversation Detoxx had with Breaken where they both acknowledged it was happening and Breaken blessed it as fair game.

The problem with Awakened is that they have a "it's not illegal if you don't get caught mentality" and it's been this way since their days as Taken. My best example goes back to Catherin and Auto-Fire, but there are countless examples. I've even spoken to Awakened members that make a case saying that "It doesn't matter if we eat a 10 day suspension - Sirken doesn't delete loot anymore, so we can do whatever we want for an entire raid cycle and then worst case scenario we lose one cycle" - this is actually from a conversation which I had with an old friend of mine and one of their top FTErs.

The mentality trickles down from the leadership to the players, trying to gain the edge at whatever expense. It's no longer about actually getting the mob it's more about the satisfaction of getting away with murder.

If you read this thread, there are no Awakened members criticizing Hijal for using a tactic they knew was manipulative and exploitative, they're simply attacking Aftermath for "Doing it, too". And, that's the problem as it was, as it is, and how it will continue to be.

Quoted for mutha fucking truth.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sigh, do i need to go get skype channel admissions from AM guild leader saying that he DOES have people who have done this? Because Detoxx doesn't even try to deny it. He's trying to move past it. Don't spin bad information. It doesn't help your guild. They both did it. AM wants to stop doing it. AW has some people who still do it and their leadership needs to lay down the law internally. Both guilds publicly don't want to do it moving forward.

Tomorrow is a brighter future. Yesterday was crappy. Don't deny facts.

I am not in Aftermath. The proof is clearly that Awakened does it and has done it for a long time. The lead Hjial has in fraps shows others aren't doing it or they wouldn't be so far behind. I am sure Aftermath probably tested it after they found out about it. That isn't the thing being discussed. Hjial and Awakened cheated and continued to cheat for months. Other guilds did not want to be part of that cheating.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhm no. In that video you see no alt+tab occurring. If you watch any race by Hjial you see the screen quickly swap when he alt+tab jumps. All that video shows is a player legitimately running competing against a guy alt+tabbing.

Naw there is alt-tabbing happening there. You don't need to actually alt+tab - anything that makes EQ lose focus (ie, the foreground window) will cause a dip in FPS, which allows the exploits to happen.

Notice the mouse pointer coming in/out.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I thought my koolaid was strong. I need Detoxx's recipe because whatever Vianna is drinking is that good good shit.

I am not in Aftermath you ignorant ox.

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I thought my koolaid was strong. I need Detoxx's recipe because whatever Vianna is drinking is that good good shit.

Chest you must have a serious case of PTSD if you keep coming back here and posting on P99 while proudly reminding everyone you don't play on this server anymore.

[Papa]

all chest has to do is post and swish and a few others go frothing at the mouth lol. Sad!

also p99 server staff literally raid suspending people for alt-tabbing. Ridiculous!