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corporate oligarchy is materially not much different from fascism.

when the owners of the means of production control the policies of a nation, it makes little difference whether or not they are officially recognized as a government.

but lick some more boots pls.
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inb4 u tell me that donald j trump is anti corporate
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also the phrase "fiscal conservatism" is just a dog whistle for neoliberalism
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Oh look it's another oakland street-rat who has no idea what fascism actually means.

Hint: Fiscal conservatism (Trump's 2016 platform) is basically the opposite of fascism. If you're looking for nu-fascism look at Le Pen; nationalist liberal.
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corporate oligarchy is materially not much different from fascism.

when the owners of the means of production control the policies of a nation, it makes little difference whether or not they are officially recognized as a government.

but lick some more boots pls.
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corporate oligarchy is materially not much different from fascism.

when the owners of the means of production control the policies of a nation, it makes little difference whether or not they are officially recognized as a government.

but lick some more boots pls.
Fascism = national brotherhood, you have a civic duty to both your government and your fellow citizens, idealization of the nation-state as a projection of the collective interest of the people as a whole, notions of cultural, philosophical, or racial purity. Economically liberal, welfare state, etc

Corporate oligarchy = The people who own the country do whatever the fuck they want policy-wise. Materially, it stems from hyper-individualism, as opposed to the collectivism required by fascism. The voters who put people like this (Trump) in office think he's going to release them from responsibilities toward other people, whether that's healthcare, welfare, or accepting immigrants. Of course, he doesn't, it's all just a rape of the american people, but they don't know that.

You should spend more time reading books and less time in Berkeley throwing bricks at store-windows.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:29 PM
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Fascism = national brotherhood, you have a civic duty to both your government and your fellow citizens, idealization of the nation-state as a projection of the collective interest of the people as a whole, notions of cultural, philosophical, or racial purity. Economically liberal, welfare state, etc

Corporate oligarchy = The people who own the country do whatever the fuck they want policy-wise. Materially, it stems from hyper-individualism, as opposed to the collectivism required by fascism. The voters who put people like this (Trump) in office think he's going to release them from responsibilities toward other people, whether that's healthcare, welfare, or accepting immigrants. Of course, he doesn't, it's all just a rape of the american people, but they don't know that.

You should spend more time reading books and less time in Berkeley throwing bricks at store-windows.
fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/Submit
noun
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy;

Now, there are plenty of reasons to believe our system of goverment has created a hybrid corporate oligarchy fascist regime.

Either way neither is good, some of one & some of the other doesn't make it better either.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:31 PM
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:37 PM
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beyond all the trappings which fascisms have come with, at its core, fascism is nationalized means of production.

it is also the things it says in the dictionary, and also the things which lune said (which can be summed up as aestheticization of politics, in the future, lune), but it is mainly nationalization of the means of production.

which is not materially different than corporate oligarchy.
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also, are .. are you saying trump and his goons aren't nationalists? XD
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