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Old 07-04-2017, 06:48 PM
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I think we need a world government or something like it, ruled by law, not force. We have to destroy our nationalist impulses.
Sounds like the Illuminati speech given by President Bush. These ideas are not your own. They were implanted in you by the media. New World Order got you thinking exactly like they want you to.

Just look at the facts. Time and time again, we are told to "be afraid". Fear mongering so they can take us to war. 9/11 happens, we prove its a bunch of Saudi nationals (and was probably inside job with CIA / FBI), yet we go to war with Iraq for "WMDs and terrorist training camps". Right. Then years later we find out Bin Laden was actually on CIA payroll at some point in life and we trained his whole fucking crew to fight the Russians. Same thing with ISIS. We were told to "be afraid"! Turns out, USA was providing weapons and air support to "syrian rebels". It is ISIS. We are literally propping up the same terrorist organizations we claim to be fighting. President Putin of Russia has commented on this multiple times. Basically accusing the west of de facto creating ISIS. It wouldn't be a crazy thing to suggest, ya know? We did export terrorism to latin/south america a lot back in the 80's. Actually a lot of places. Google Noam Chomsky and educate yourself on the hypocrisy of US Foreign Policy. And check some recent examples as well. The new President of the Phillippines, Duterte, who the media love to demonize, is having tons of issues with terrorist cells in his country, after he started to buck the US Foreign Policy that has held his country to heel for so long. You disobey us? Oh look, a terrorist! Imagine that! What a coincidence! Oh you need weapons? Nope! Can't help you anymore! Oh Putin is gonna give you weapons!?!? Hey World! Look at Putin trying to take over the world!!!!! Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

Now, given what I just said, why the fuck would you want to give these people *MORE* power than they already have? One world govt? What a fucking joke. Look at all the terrible atrocities committed by govt's over time. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc etc. Are they decentralized democracies? Fuck no. They are centralized, all powerful states that do whatever they want. And they did. And you saw the results. We need to start pushing for decentralized power in the USA. State's rights. Federal power is too corrupt. What's the saying? "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." - John Dalberg-Acton

P.S. - Here's something I always thought was very odd. Remember 9/11? Were you in school? I was. Did you notice something odd, looking back on it? You watched it, right? The teacher wheeled a fucking TV into the classroom, and you watched a terrorist attack live on television. Why? When else did a school show us breaking news like a plane crashing or a building burning? Why would a school even show that shit to kids? Notice something else? EVERY CLASSROOM SHOWED IT. Like the school board sent out a message commanding it. It wasn't like some teachers did, other teachers decided not to. Every person in my school watched it. I just find that reaaaaalllllyyyyyy weird.
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Sounds like the Illuminati speech given by President Bush. These ideas are not your own. They were implanted in you by the media. New World Order got you thinking exactly like they want you to.

Just look at the facts. Time and time again, we are told to "be afraid". Fear mongering so they can take us to war. 9/11 happens, we prove its a bunch of Saudi nationals (and was probably inside job with CIA / FBI), yet we go to war with Iraq for "WMDs and terrorist training camps". Right. Then years later we find out Bin Laden was actually on CIA payroll at some point in life and we trained his whole fucking crew to fight the Russians. Same thing with ISIS. We were told to "be afraid"! Turns out, USA was providing weapons and air support to "syrian rebels". It is ISIS. We are literally propping up the same terrorist organizations we claim to be fighting. President Putin of Russia has commented on this multiple times. Basically accusing the west of de facto creating ISIS. It wouldn't be a crazy thing to suggest, ya know? We did export terrorism to latin/south america a lot back in the 80's. Actually a lot of places. Google Noam Chomsky and educate yourself on the hypocrisy of US Foreign Policy. And check some recent examples as well. The new President of the Phillippines, Duterte, who the media love to demonize, is having tons of issues with terrorist cells in his country, after he started to buck the US Foreign Policy that has held his country to heel for so long. You disobey us? Oh look, a terrorist! Imagine that! What a coincidence! Oh you need weapons? Nope! Can't help you anymore! Oh Putin is gonna give you weapons!?!? Hey World! Look at Putin trying to take over the world!!!!! Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

Now, given what I just said, why the fuck would you want to give these people *MORE* power than they already have? One world govt? What a fucking joke. Look at all the terrible atrocities committed by govt's over time. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc etc. Are they decentralized democracies? Fuck no. They are centralized, all powerful states that do whatever they want. And they did. And you saw the results. We need to start pushing for decentralized power in the USA. State's rights. Federal power is too corrupt. What's the saying? "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." - John Dalberg-Acton

P.S. - Here's something I always thought was very odd. Remember 9/11? Were you in school? I was. Did you notice something odd, looking back on it? You watched it, right? The teacher wheeled a fucking TV into the classroom, and you watched a terrorist attack live on television. Why? When else did a school show us breaking news like a plane crashing or a building burning? Why would a school even show that shit to kids? Notice something else? EVERY CLASSROOM SHOWED IT. Like the school board sent out a message commanding it. It wasn't like some teachers did, other teachers decided not to. Every person in my school watched it. I just find that reaaaaalllllyyyyyy weird.

woke post. read it u fatheads
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Old 07-04-2017, 08:28 PM
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Old 07-04-2017, 08:31 PM
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wats ur issue w/ russia
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Old 07-05-2017, 07:09 AM
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Sounds like the Illuminati speech given by President Bush. These ideas are not your own. They were implanted in you by the media. New World Order got you thinking exactly like they want you to.

Just look at the facts. Time and time again, we are told to "be afraid". Fear mongering so they can take us to war. 9/11 happens, we prove its a bunch of Saudi nationals (and was probably inside job with CIA / FBI), yet we go to war with Iraq for "WMDs and terrorist training camps". Right. Then years later we find out Bin Laden was actually on CIA payroll at some point in life and we trained his whole fucking crew to fight the Russians. Same thing with ISIS. We were told to "be afraid"! Turns out, USA was providing weapons and air support to "syrian rebels". It is ISIS. We are literally propping up the same terrorist organizations we claim to be fighting. President Putin of Russia has commented on this multiple times. Basically accusing the west of de facto creating ISIS. It wouldn't be a crazy thing to suggest, ya know? We did export terrorism to latin/south america a lot back in the 80's. Actually a lot of places. Google Noam Chomsky and educate yourself on the hypocrisy of US Foreign Policy. And check some recent examples as well. The new President of the Phillippines, Duterte, who the media love to demonize, is having tons of issues with terrorist cells in his country, after he started to buck the US Foreign Policy that has held his country to heel for so long. You disobey us? Oh look, a terrorist! Imagine that! What a coincidence! Oh you need weapons? Nope! Can't help you anymore! Oh Putin is gonna give you weapons!?!? Hey World! Look at Putin trying to take over the world!!!!! Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

Now, given what I just said, why the fuck would you want to give these people *MORE* power than they already have? One world govt? What a fucking joke. Look at all the terrible atrocities committed by govt's over time. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc etc. Are they decentralized democracies? Fuck no. They are centralized, all powerful states that do whatever they want. And they did. And you saw the results. We need to start pushing for decentralized power in the USA. State's rights. Federal power is too corrupt. What's the saying? "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." - John Dalberg-Acton

P.S. - Here's something I always thought was very odd. Remember 9/11? Were you in school? I was. Did you notice something odd, looking back on it? You watched it, right? The teacher wheeled a fucking TV into the classroom, and you watched a terrorist attack live on television. Why? When else did a school show us breaking news like a plane crashing or a building burning? Why would a school even show that shit to kids? Notice something else? EVERY CLASSROOM SHOWED IT. Like the school board sent out a message commanding it. It wasn't like some teachers did, other teachers decided not to. Every person in my school watched it. I just find that reaaaaalllllyyyyyy weird.
We weren't forced to watch anything in school, freshman in high school then. First period, English, the teacher, had a great body, saw it on her computer as she was loading up the attendance program for the next period's attendance. Evemtually the prinicpal came on over the loud speakers.
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:24 PM
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We weren't forced to watch anything in school, freshman in high school then. First period, English, the teacher, had a great body, saw it on her computer as she was loading up the attendance program for the next period's attendance. Evemtually the prinicpal came on over the loud speakers.
Your school failed in the global conspiracy mission. Ya'll probably had very low funding.
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Old 07-06-2017, 10:57 AM
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Sounds like the Illuminati speech given by President Bush. These ideas are not your own. They were implanted in you by the media. New World Order got you thinking exactly like they want you to.

Just look at the facts. Time and time again, we are told to "be afraid". Fear mongering so they can take us to war. 9/11 happens, we prove its a bunch of Saudi nationals (and was probably inside job with CIA / FBI), yet we go to war with Iraq for "WMDs and terrorist training camps". Right. Then years later we find out Bin Laden was actually on CIA payroll at some point in life and we trained his whole fucking crew to fight the Russians. Same thing with ISIS. We were told to "be afraid"! Turns out, USA was providing weapons and air support to "syrian rebels". It is ISIS. We are literally propping up the same terrorist organizations we claim to be fighting. President Putin of Russia has commented on this multiple times. Basically accusing the west of de facto creating ISIS. It wouldn't be a crazy thing to suggest, ya know? We did export terrorism to latin/south america a lot back in the 80's. Actually a lot of places. Google Noam Chomsky and educate yourself on the hypocrisy of US Foreign Policy. And check some recent examples as well. The new President of the Phillippines, Duterte, who the media love to demonize, is having tons of issues with terrorist cells in his country, after he started to buck the US Foreign Policy that has held his country to heel for so long. You disobey us? Oh look, a terrorist! Imagine that! What a coincidence! Oh you need weapons? Nope! Can't help you anymore! Oh Putin is gonna give you weapons!?!? Hey World! Look at Putin trying to take over the world!!!!! Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

Now, given what I just said, why the fuck would you want to give these people *MORE* power than they already have? One world govt? What a fucking joke. Look at all the terrible atrocities committed by govt's over time. Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc etc. Are they decentralized democracies? Fuck no. They are centralized, all powerful states that do whatever they want. And they did. And you saw the results. We need to start pushing for decentralized power in the USA. State's rights. Federal power is too corrupt. What's the saying? "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." - John Dalberg-Acton

P.S. - Here's something I always thought was very odd. Remember 9/11? Were you in school? I was. Did you notice something odd, looking back on it? You watched it, right? The teacher wheeled a fucking TV into the classroom, and you watched a terrorist attack live on television. Why? When else did a school show us breaking news like a plane crashing or a building burning? Why would a school even show that shit to kids? Notice something else? EVERY CLASSROOM SHOWED IT. Like the school board sent out a message commanding it. It wasn't like some teachers did, other teachers decided not to. Every person in my school watched it. I just find that reaaaaalllllyyyyyy weird.
Good post, but there were no planes, just explosives
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:19 PM
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Your school failed in the global conspiracy mission. Ya'll probably had very low funding.
Nah, we were consistently one of the top 10 schools in the state. The football coaches were smelling blood, but the student body wanted early release.
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Old 07-06-2017, 06:57 PM
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1) Worker improves the value of their labor - through experience (free) or education (cheap). Worker negotiates higher wages - possibly from a competing employer. Maybe even eventually collecting enough capital to take the risk of becoming an owner... possibly even offering a fair wage!

2) A competing capitalist offers a fair wage for the same job.

Fixt.
Those don't address the problem. The problem isn't that people who rely on the value of their labor aren't getting enough value. The problem is with the people who don't rely on selling labor. No matter how highly compensated a worker is, his creation of personal wealth scales linearly with the sale of his labor in a manner that does not create a positive feedback loop.

A union plumber who makes $90,000 a year for his labor will make $90,000 the next year with the same labor and the same market, and maybe $100,000 a year after that if he gets a higher wage or successfully invests.

If Paris Hilton has $100 million being managed by investment bankers, in a few years it will grow to $120 million. In the next few years with a higher principle it will grow even more. Paris Hilton's wealth creation is only dependent on aggregate wealth because the wealth itself is the vehicle for income. As her wealth increases, her capacity to generate even more wealth also increases. There is no natural force in the free market that counteracts the tendency of the Paris Hiltons of the worlds' investment accounts to grow over time at a rate totally unparalleled by those who sell their labor.

Even something like an economic crash, bubble burst, poor management, fraud, etc, doesn't keep pace with the diversification of investments.

Basically, without things like progressive taxation, capitalists come to be 'owners' of ever-larger segments of society.
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:25 PM
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We weren't forced to watch anything in school, freshman in high school then. First period, English, the teacher, had a great body, saw it on her computer as she was loading up the attendance program for the next period's attendance. Evemtually the prinicpal came on over the loud speakers.
Wow strong nit-picking.

You turning into Lune quoting a woke ass post n going in like that.
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