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Old 07-21-2017, 02:02 PM
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Leaves behind a wife and their 6 kids... Jeez.
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Old 07-21-2017, 02:16 PM
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not his fault for what he is or was. people dont kill they self if they feel they needed. he probably thought that with his success his wife and children would be well taken care of and everyone around him would be better off if he did not exist. people don't just kill theyself for no reason.

"selfish" people generally don't kill theyself because they live they life for theyself. that a stupid word though because all rational behavior is selfish. it just happen that some people have they satisfaction more tightly correlated with others.
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Old 07-21-2017, 02:45 PM
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not his fault for what he is or was. people dont kill they self if they feel they needed. he probably thought that with his success his wife and children would be well taken care of and everyone around him would be better off if he did not exist. people don't just kill theyself for no reason.

"selfish" people generally don't kill theyself because they live they life for theyself. that a stupid word though because all rational behavior is selfish. it just happen that some people have they satisfaction more tightly correlated with others.
People do not commit suicide because they want to die, they do it because they want to no longer feel pain. I read this once, and I think this is exactly true.

It's easy to say things like "he was selfish for committing suicide," but I think this is wrong. It's just a lot more complicated than that.
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Old 07-21-2017, 02:57 PM
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People do not commit suicide because they want to die, they do it because they want to no longer feel pain. I read this once, and I think this is exactly true.

It's easy to say things like "he was selfish for committing suicide," but I think this is wrong. It's just a lot more complicated than that.
I cannot agree. He had six kids, all with no father now. Although I don't know the whole story, he was financially capable of receiving any help he needed.
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:11 PM
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I cannot agree. He had six kids, all with no father now. Although I don't know the whole story, he was financially capable of receiving any help he needed.
that why it obvious he thought things would be better off without him. it possible he not thought about anyone else, but if that the case, why he upset in the first place? if he only concerned with himself, he coulda done whatever he wanted to get happy. it very likely he felt it not matter if he were gone. unless you killing youself to spite others, you hafta believe that you death not matter, or that it be a good thing.
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:20 PM
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I think the craziest part of this is how many people loved Chester.
linkin park touched so, so many people back in the day.
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:57 PM
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not his fault for what he is or was. people dont kill they self if they feel they needed. he probably thought that with his success his wife and children would be well taken care of and everyone around him would be better off if he did not exist. people don't just kill theyself for no reason.
This is a direct quote from him from earlier this year when asked why he quit a tour

"It was just too hard on my family, so I basically was like, you know what, I’ve got to stop being selfish here. When I’m not doing Linkin Park, I’ve got to be home with my babies."

Obviously knew he meant a lot to his kids, two of which are like 6 years old, still decided to kill him self. I cant pretend that doesnt make him a piece of shit.
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Old 07-21-2017, 03:59 PM
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Deals with the devil weigh hard on the heart.
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:01 PM
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My heart goes out to all the bad music fans mourning his loss.
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Old 07-21-2017, 04:30 PM
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My heart goes out to all the bad music fans mourning his loss.
Pretty sure he meant something to other people and not just music fans. I enjoyed some of their music in the early 2000s, but his death has more impact on me not because of who he was an an individual but because he was partially responsible for creating part of my life experiences.

Music/movies/art for me often coincides within my life experiences and often times musicians songs are etched within my memories of the past. This is why for me, when musicians pass or actors/actresses pass I always feel sad, it's almost as if a piece of my past has died.

As for calling Chester selfish for ending his life, this is simply not the case. It's clearly a mental health issue and being selfish has nothing to do with it.

To be considered selfish, one is doing something for ones own gain or pleasure, by definition. Obviously, when someone commits suicide, they are not doing it for any gain or personal pleasure.
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