Guide On How to Stop Being Fat

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i didn't miss this vidya link did I? i was curious ^^

Sorry, I think it's Abby Pollock - Is intermittent fasting safe for women? Has some interesting information in it but her format is all over the place in that video.

What's neat is there's a sexual dimorphic response to fasting.

[JurisDictum]

So I know there is this American attitude that goes like:

"You don't need to know what carbs are -- just calories in and calories out." Technically true, in reality that's bullshit. People aren't machines, and need to stay motivated in healthy if they are going to be doing a weight loss program for months, if not over a year.

--Recap of some supposedly unimportant categories that they don't need in France--

Carbs. If you don't eat carbs (and I mean a substantially amount -- not just the amount to stay alive), your body is going to burn protein first, then fat. That's why its good to get some carbs down with your meat. That and most everyone reports feeling more energetic and charged from carbs. But carbs in excess are fattening because they are very efficient energy.

Fats. You need some fat for your skin health and hormone balance. Stay away from transfats -- which are not as common these days. Saturated fat isn't exactly healthfood -- but is ok (meats and cheeses have this fat). Unsaturated fat like in olives, oils, and avocados -- is really good for you. Because fat is easy to intake without trying in my experience, its mostly about avoiding too much if your losing weight.

Protein. Need it for muscle maintenance and growth. You want a lot of protein generally, but you can only take in like 50 grams at once or something. So no reason to way overdo it on protein foods per meal. But it is a good idea to try to eat protein with every meal. You can only absorb something like 25g of protein from liquid at once BTW -- so keep that in mind if your a huge protein shake guy.

Fiber. It's what keeps digestion in order. Empty carbs are basically carbs without fiber. They are less filling and can clog you up without supplemental fiber from other foods or supplements (I'm against supplements unless directed by dr.). This is why salad and beans seems to show up in a lot of healthy people's diet.

Sugar. Sugar is a substance that makes you moody, hungry and fat. That's the best way to think about sugar. Concentrated sugar is worse than simple sugar -- fiber in fruit helps cancel sugar out of it in your diet. But fruit, a little in vinegar or jam (shop around for lower sugar jam, pref with no added sugar) won't kill you.

Vitamins. Just make sure you are getting enough A and C from fruits and veggies -- prevent yourself from getting sick. Might want to think about zinc...fun fact for men-- when you ejaculate you lose zinc.

Micro-nutrients* are a hobby and most cant be proven to do anything. But I do stuff like eat green peppers because I hear it helps muscle growth because of some micro nutrient in it. Cinnamon can help you lose fat supposedly etc. Whatever floats your boat, just don't let it sway you from being generally healthy. I wouldn't start buttering everything ups like crazy because you hear about k-2 for example.

Anyway -- my point is there is a reason even people trying to bulk up don't eat a bunch of pancakes with syrup to do it. And there are reasons why eating junk and losing weight is bad.

*Creatine works for helping muscle build from what I hear -- but I haven't bothered yet. It's not supposed to make a huge difference.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyway -- my point is there is a reason even people trying to bulk up don't eat a bunch of pancakes with syrup to do it. And there are reasons why eating junk and losing weight is bad.

Really? I think if I want to learn how to bulk up, I would listen to The Rock before you.

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[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really? I think if I want to learn how to bulk up, I would listen to The Rock before you.

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What the rock actually eats
Breakfast: 10-ounce beef fillet, 2 cups of oatmeal, two-egg omelet.
Brunch: 8 ounces of cod, 12 ounces of sweet potatoes, 1 cup of steamed veggies.
Half lunch: 8 ounces of chicken (we're assuming not fried), 2 cups of white rice, 1 cup of veggies.
Lunch: 8 more ounces of cod, 2 cups of rice, 1 cup of veggies.
Lunner (or maybe dunch): 8 ounces of steak, 12 ounces of baked potato fries, a salad.
Dinner: 10 more ounces of cod (really, can you ever get enough cod?) 2 more cups of rice, another salad.
Late-night snack: 30 grams of casein protein powder, 10-egg-white omelet (yes, 10!), 1 cup of veggies, a tablespoon of Omega-3 to wash it down

Favorite cheat meal: 4 whole double dough pizzas, 21 cookies and a gallon of milk and sometimes he added 12 pancakes!

The rock was born looking big like that. Both of his parents were bodybuilders. He eats more white carbs than I think is perfect...but whatever -- he counter balances with veggies and healthy carbs.

So if you want that cheat day, white rice and some fries -- better work out a lot to avoid getting fat.

Edit: Sometimes you do get a little fat temporarily during a bulking plan I might add. Builders do this thing where they gain body fat long before a competition and then lost it shortly before to look nice. But calling a bodybuilder fat sounds extreme to people with more normal reference points.

[maskedmelon]

i started getting nauseous between brunch and half-lunch. that is just too much food ;n; i actually tried to put on some muscle once (lol!) and couldn't deal with all the food. im thankful i wasn't more successful though [: that lost gave me flashbacks of tuna cans and chicken breasts, which are both gross :c

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, I think it's Abby Pollock - Is intermittent fasting safe for women? Has some interesting information in it but her format is all over the place in that video.

What's neat is there's a sexual dimorphic response to fasting.

interesting, im gonna hafta check that out ^^ ty

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My body's basically a mix of fat and salt and protein, like a cheeseburger that's able to metabolically regulate itself.

Anyone else have this problem?

yeah, but i maintain sufficient blood glucose levels and glycogen stores that I am more liek a soy peppermint brownie with cream cheese frosting.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Forum Cuck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

too many idiots posting in this thread now

you're a cuck.

[JurisDictum]

I just realized the reason these guys eat the fries and white rice is probably to make themselves slightly more able to eat the next meal compared to if they eat brown rice.

Anyway if all this talk about bulking plans and getting jacked scares anyone reading away from weight lifting -- don't let it. No one ever accidentally got huge. You don't have to go nearly that far to a lot out of it.

But its worth noting a lot of fat people have genetics to look at least kind of like the rock (he is a famously good-looking builder from a young age keep in mind, so don't be unrealistic) -- and they are wasting them. They don't even know it.

[A1rh3ad]

Also you need to consider the fact that the rock and pro athletes work far harder than the average homebody. Their method will be way different. I lifted weights and did cardio and lost a lot of fat and replaced it with muscle. I new have a labor intensive job so I maintain my figure there. Point is while you do need more clean calories, you will never need as much as you think.