Can you lose camp going to sell?

pijan · #1 09-14-2018, 10:41 AM

Doing some treedudes in south Karana and ran to sell at centaur. Came back to a fella sitting there saying it was his camp since I wasn't there when he arrived. Is this how camps work? Do I need to just find someone else to sell for me next time?

branamil · #2 09-14-2018, 10:48 AM

As long as you stay in the zone the camp is still yours. It's only leaving the zone when you lose a camp. He was wrong.

loramin · #3 09-14-2018, 11:12 AM

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As long as you stay in the zone the camp is still yours. It's only leaving the zone when you lose a camp. He was wrong.

This. But fair warning: if you don't make it back to your camp in time and the ents start spawning while he's there and you're not, it absolutely is his camp. But as long as you make it back in time the camp is your's, and if he tries to take the mobs after that it's petition time (or at least very strongly-worded /tell time).

But ... if we want to get really technical, neither of you can hold all the ents. Technically each of you can only hold a single spawn point, and then every remaining ent becomes FTE (first to engage ... whoever agroes it first gets it).

But most people don't get to that level of rules lawyering and instead treat all the ents as a single camp.

pijan · #4 09-14-2018, 11:16 AM

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This is correct. If you don't make it back to your camp in time and the ents start spawning while he's there and you're not, it absolutely is his camp. But as long as you make it back in time the camp is your's, and if he tries to take the mobs after that it's petition time (or at least very strongly-worded /tell time).

Now, if we want to get really technical, neither of you can hold all the ents. Technically each of you can only hold a single spawn point, and then every remaining ent becomes FTE (first to engage ... whoever agroes it first gets it).

But most people don't get to that level of rules lawyering and instead treat all the ents as a single camp.

One of the two were up by the time I got back is this enough to lose camp?

Xer0 · #5 09-14-2018, 11:32 AM

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One of the two were up by the time I got back is this enough to lose camp?

Yes.

He arrived at the camp. Spawns were up, no one was there. That means the camp isn't claimed.

pijan · #6 09-14-2018, 11:33 AM

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Yes.

He arrived at the camp. Spawns were up, no one was there. That means the camp isn't claimed.

OK thanks. Guess I'll fine someone to sell for me next time

bigjeff100 · #7 09-14-2018, 11:36 AM

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Doing some treedudes in south Karana and ran to sell at centaur. Came back to a fella sitting there saying it was his camp since I wasn't there when he arrived. Is this how camps work? Do I need to just find someone else to sell for me next time?

That sucks man. I'd have given back that camp in a second! There are always other things to do on EQ. With a player base of players 30 years old and up, It's annoying people can't just be like " Oh sorry man just figured camp was empty, it's all yours" Instead you get- Nah man, camps mine, sorry you missed out on exp". Those people exist, but good people exist too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legidias · #8 09-14-2018, 12:32 PM

You can always /who and hire a lowbie to sell for you.

loramin · #9 09-14-2018, 12:35 PM

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OK thanks. Guess I'll fine someone to sell for me next time

You can also announce what you're doing, "/ooc Leaving ents to sell real quick but I'll be right back". That will discourage most people from taking your camp, but it might encourage the really lame ones.

Also, again technically at that point the server rules would allow/encourage you to share if you want. The new guy would get the spawn point that was up, you could claim the spawn point that wasn't, and if there were any left (I forget how many ents there are) you two could race for it.

It would be worse than having the camp to yourself, but better than no camp at all. Still, there are so many camps in SK that if it were me I'd just move on to centaurs, aviaks, hermit, elephants, etc., unless the person taking the camp was being a real dick about it (in which case I might force them to share purely out of spite ... but only if they were really being a dick).

JackofSpade · #10 09-14-2018, 07:21 PM

It is his camp if you are strictly following the rules, as he arrived to an unoccupied camp with mobs up. However, in my experience, most people will concede back the camp (and I do for others) if you politely explain the situation to them and ask nicely for it back. If you did that and he still went all lawyerquest on you then he is a dick imo, even though he isn't technically breaking any rules.