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Old 05-17-2019, 10:45 PM
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These people presented evidence of innocence leading to a finding of actual innocence and exoneration. That sounds kind of like the opposite of what you are saying.

Stanley Mozee and Dennis Allen Declared “Actually Innocent” After 15 Years in Prison
Doesn't matter what the judge says. There is no legal standard for proving innocence so it's impossible to do in a court of law. I can find judges saying all sorts of stupid shit.
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:53 PM
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If presenting enough evidence to convince a judge to release someone from jail because they were actually innocent isn't a legal standard for proving innocence I'd like to know what is.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:05 PM
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If presenting enough evidence to convince a judge to release someone from jail because they were actually innocent isn't a legal standard for proving innocence I'd like to know what is.
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In its most literal sense, "actual innocence"—more properly understood as a claim that the prosecution has failed to prove factual guilt beyond a reasonable doubt—is a very commonly raised defense to a crime
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:10 PM
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Wait, are you saying that all it takes to prove factual innocence is the prosecution failing to prove factual guilt?
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:16 PM
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Wait, are you saying that all it takes to prove factual innocence is the prosecution failing to prove factual guilt?
Read the fucking quote a couple more times and maybe it will sink in after a couple days.
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Old 05-17-2019, 11:41 PM
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You said it was impossible to prove actual innocence. Then you said actual innocence was a claim that the prosecution has failed to prove factual guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. That means that you are saying that it's impossible to prove a claim that the prosecution has failed to prove factual guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

However it's trivial to prove this claim because whenever the jury returns a not guilty verdict it claims that the prosecution has failed to prove factual guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. QED.
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Old 05-18-2019, 01:01 AM
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Old 05-18-2019, 02:16 AM
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only the fetuses are innocent. any med student wanna elucidate the process by which original sin is transferred from parent to child?
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Old 05-21-2019, 04:31 PM
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Lol Pelosi dealing with a rabid fanbase that insists on impeachment for imagined crimes created and stoked by leftist journalist mouthpieces over the past 3 years; sweating the likelihood that any attempt to formalize an indictment would expose them for gerrymandering public opinion through their incessant media manipulation.
"We just wanted you guys to hate Trump...."
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Old 05-21-2019, 04:47 PM
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Lol Pelosi dealing with a rabid fanbase that insists on impeachment for imagined crimes created and stoked by leftist journalist mouthpieces over the past 3 years; sweating the likelihood that any attempt to formalize an indictment would expose them for gerrymandering public opinion through their incessant media manipulation.
"We just wanted you guys to hate Trump...."
Leftists calling for impeachment are just ignorant, whiny children and they needed to be treated as such.

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