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Old 09-24-2019, 09:15 PM
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I love the idea of blacking out the screen.

There is a lot of vocal minority haters out there, but many of us come back to EQ for the memories of all the goofy mechanics like "blind book medding".

I think those quirks are what tied it closer to its DND origins, and made it a quirky nerd game and not just a mass appeal MMO.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:26 PM
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I think those quirks are what tied it closer to its DND origins, and made it a quirky nerd game and not just a mass appeal MMO.
EQ's origins are DIKU MUDs, mate..
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:43 PM
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I think if we did a poll we'd find that it's not a minority. I know EQ has always been a game for masochists but I just find it hard to imagine that people actually want and enjoy things like blind medding and hybrid xp penalties.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:45 PM
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When did you ever have to sit around blind to get mana in D&D? D&D didn't even have mana
So the original UI to eq had a view window. The spellbook took up the entire view area when open, this is why the compromise Rogean made has the screen blacked out. Widescreen monitors are in 16:9 aspect ratio typically and the original UI was in 4:3, a square shape instead of a rectangle. They would have to make a totally custom UI that didn't look janky on 16:9 to somehow replicate that, so the compromise was blacking out the screen while the book is open.

So how does that fit into EQ and D&D, perhaps not directly. EQ is inspired/took things from D&D. In the books spellcasters would memorize spells from their spellbooks. Use your imagination, you are a mage in training and spend your downtime studying your book (not you but the character.. this is RPG) and are not focused on anything else. Until you reach mastery (level 35) then you no longer need the book anymore, you have passed this part of your training.

Nerdy? sure it is. Not convenient? not supposed to be. EQ still had its RPG roots during this time and hadn't been transformed into just another video game with grinding yet.

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Old 09-24-2019, 09:46 PM
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I know EQ has always been a game for masochists
This is joked about but its wrong. Very wrong and totally misses the point.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:50 PM
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EQ's origins are DIKU MUDs, mate..
Part of its origins are. Essentially its a chat room dungeon. Even while medding blind with the spellbook open the main chat window was there to use. Sorry guys using discord, its convenient speaking over the mic and all.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:50 PM
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A lot of EQ was designed the way it was because they were originally planning to charge for the game hourly. I would guess blind meditation was one of the mechanics that came about because of that. More deaths = more time played = more money. Many bad mechanics were fixed later for a reason.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:52 PM
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Cleric using their spellbook.

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Old 09-24-2019, 09:54 PM
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A lot of EQ was designed the way it was because they were originally planning to charge for the game hourly. I would guess blind meditation was one of the mechanics that came about because of that. More deaths = more time played = more money. Many bad mechanics were fixed later for a reason.
There is no reasoning with you, you are pretty dead set on its bad and should have been changed.

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Old 09-24-2019, 09:55 PM
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Yes, it was bad, they changed it because it was bad, and the game was better for it. If it's so great then why did they remove it?
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