"Need before greed"

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry you are poor OP, I can throw you some plat.

Ok and you can give me high tier items too since you don't need them.

Or are you just being a hypocrite because you also want items and wouldn't actually do that?

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok and you can give me high tier items too since you don't need them.

Or are you just being a hypocrite because you also want items and wouldn't actually do that?

I thought plat and items were the same? Now you want plat AND high tier items given to you when I offered you free plat?!!! Gtfoh! Again I’m sorry you are poor OP and apparently extremely greedy with a high dose of entitlement

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by vossiewulf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No Hazek, we follow your logic, we just don't agree that it's correct. The reason being that it treats all these objects as gray boxes with no particular association to any class. If that were true, then your logic would actually work. But it is not true.

What is true is the objects have class associations so if you win the roll on the 500pp words with a mage there, that person will have seen something that they very much need right there and now it's gone. And it may be another 20 hours of camping before one shows up again.

That person will feel from pretty bummed out to like shit. Many would call it a night because this sucks. People who actually feel empathy for others would never consider doing that to someone else. It's not called the Golden Rule without reason.

What I see is people who feel no empathy for others, specifically you and a couple others, and I think that because your logic regularly requires that to be true to work. And the fact that you don't even notice that is also telling.

But at the same time, not everyone who's fine with rolling for everything is ok with it for the same reasons Hazek/Nordok wants it to be the default. Not talking about those people here.

The golden rule works both ways. If you invoke it in the "the warrior NEEDS the fbss because it makes his character better but the magician is just greedy and wants to sell it" way but not also in the "the magician can buy all kinds of things he NEEDS with the plat from selling the fbss" way... you're not being logically consistent. At that point you're just using the rule when it brings about the result you want, not because you actually understand or believe in the rule.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought plat and items were the same? Now you want plat AND high tier items given to you when I offered you free plat?!!! Gtfoh! Again I’m sorry you are poor OP and apparently extremely greedy with a high dose of entitlement

You're calling me poor because I want items and a fair roll on them. So that means if you want a single item then you're a hypocrite. So you gunna give em all to me or accept the fact?

[Tethler]

Are all these guys disagreeing with the greed everything idea new to p99? That's how people have done it on blue for years. People only really do NBG with friends and guildies. With strangers its always greed everything. If you see people pass on blue, its not out of generosity, its because they dont want to be bothered selling the item in the tunnel.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The golden rule works both ways. If you invoke it in the "the warrior NEEDS the fbss because it makes his character better but the magician is just greedy and wants to sell it" way but not also in the "the magician can buy all kinds of things he NEEDS with the plat from selling the fbss" way... you're not being logically consistent. At that point you're just using the rule when it brings about the result you want, not because you actually understand or believe in the rule.

I agree. That's why I don't invoke that and I always say that everyone should roll regardless of who can equip it. But if the group is dumb and won't be convinced then I'm not gunna waste time arguing with them and might as well use their irrational rules to my advantage since there's no other option besides disbanding.

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're calling me poor because I want items and a fair roll on them. So that means if you want a single item then you're a hypocrite. So you gunna give em all to me or accept the fact?

You are brain dead I was legit offering to throw you some plat...

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are all these guys disagreeing with the greed everything idea new to p99? That's how people have done it on blue for years. People only really do NBG with friends and guildies. With strangers its always greed everything. If you see people pass on blue, its not out of generosity, its because they dont want to be bothered selling the item in the tunnel.

Some groups are like that but not always. People generally assume that its greedy to roll on an item you can't equip because "need before greed" even though thats backwards. So I made this thread to point out that fact and so they stop acting like its wrong to roll on a tradeable items just because your class "can't use it".

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by Wallicker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are brain dead I was legit offering to throw you some plat...

Well that's ironic and I don't need your plat. I'm just calling you out for being poor since you want a fair chance at items, according to you.

[Wallicker]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that's ironic and I don't need your plat. I'm just calling you out for being poor since you want a fair chance at items, according to you.

What?? Lol