Good fix Nilbog, but how about making this playable now?

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because the staff here say it is, doesn't mean that's how it was.

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[Hyjalx]

Dragons were going to zone in and zone out on Bristlebane all of Velious and even into Luclin. Not once did Shiften ban or suspend us for doing it. I mean, the evidence is in the pudding.... look how close 5-6 dragons are to their respective zone in's and zone outs.

Even if you didn't play during this era, its obvious.

[Baler]

Submit a bug report with all the evidence that's in said pudding.

Q18: Where can I deposit my tears?
A: As always, your tears and crying ... are important to us; for without you we couldn't possibly run things around here.

[Hyjalx]

No offense Baler, but did you watch your brother play during this era too?

And that is partly the issue. A lot of folks commenting were still learning how to wipe their own behinds during this era and not actually in raiding guilds and clearing Velious and ToV....

Really sad that the game is getting lost in its age.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was never an exploit Loramin.

So Verant didn't root the dragons to prevent it on Live? C'mon, don't be disingenuous.

Originally Posted by remen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is your response to 150+ person raids to kill 1 dragon not being classic? How would you fix this to restore a more classic feel to the server?

My response is that I don't know everything and don't claim to. Look, calling out an obvious unclassic exploit is shooting fish in a barrell: fixing a system to be better takes smart people with knowledge of that system ... and as I've freely admitted, I don't know the current raid scene.

But I do know this for sure: if you say "hey staff, ignore the upper left corner", it won't work. You will never make the server better doing that. But if you say, "hey staff, if you made ___ change it would make this place more classic" ... and you actually build consensus for that idea ... why wouldn't the staff adopt it?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

did you watch your brother play during this era too?

I assume that's a dig at me, and no I did not watch my brother. I played other games at Matchplay, which was a computer gaming center where a core group of Club Fu (including Pouty) played back in the day.

But I mean, belittle me for not playing a particular computer game in 1999 all you want: it won't change the facts or convince the staff of anything.

[Daloon]

I just want to know how pathing got progressively worse over the years. Why do guilds need a GM present to do a damn Ring War when that was never the case prior. Server needs reverted a few years but not my box.

[Hyjalx]

I was talking to Baler because he said something along those lines as evidence in a previous post. You actually make sense most of the time, but I don't agree with your exploit claim.

And yes, I am well aware FU started in an internet cafe. I was one of few raid leaders of FU from Velious-PoP. Many vets of the time know this or I would get eviscerated commenting here.

I am simply just stating facts on how things were during this era.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was talking to Baler because he said something along those lines as evidence in a previous post. You actually make sense most of the time, but I don't agree with your exploit claim.

And yes, I am well aware FU started in an internet cafe. I was one of few raid leaders of FU from Velious-PoP. Many vets of the time know this or I would get eviscerated commenting here.

I am simply just stating facts on how things were during this era.

Ah, apologies for getting defensive then.

As for the exploit thing ... how do you define exploit? Serious question.

Because personally I just can't come up with a reasonable definition that excludes "things Verant specifically patched the game to prevent" ... which is exactly what they did when they rooted the dragons in Luclin.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

riot warmbody not pleased that you're breaking the narrative hyjal

if they unroot the dragons, what happens to carebear land

Lol I’m not part of Riot nor any other raiding guild. Just like watching the tears from people who want EZ mode