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View Poll Results: How do you feel about Enchanter's power level? Multiple choice allowed.
Non-classically overpowered and needs nerf 66 33.33%
Non-classically overpowered and does not need nerf 19 9.60%
Classically overpowered and needs nerf (Bard, Nec, etc examples) 23 11.62%
Classically overpowered and does not need nerf 88 44.44%
Trivializes content and needs nerf 42 21.21%
Trivializes content and does not need nerf 16 8.08%
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:40 PM
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You've lied about memory blur rates being too high on mez and you've lied about enchanter animation HPs, which have the correct HPs that were verified in show EQ logs.

Pretty much everything that could be objectively tested/looked at in your various assortment of cherry picked fairy tales you've lied about.
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:49 PM
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Op why does this hurt you so much I don't play enchanter for a few reasons one of them is because I like to go afk but I think it would suck if you got them nerfed
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:50 PM
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When did all you Enchanter defenders stop caring about classic EverQuest? NO ONE remembers Enchanters being like this in classic EverQuest!
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:53 PM
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When did all you Enchanter defenders stop caring about classic EverQuest?
Never, and considering I was the second level 50 enchanter on fennin ro, I actually know WTF I'm talking about, both then and now.
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:55 PM
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You've lied about memory blur rates being too high on mez and you've lied about enchanter animation HPs, which have the correct HPs that were verified in show EQ logs.

Pretty much everything that could be objectively tested/looked at in your various assortment of cherry picked fairy tales you've lied about.
Ok, let's talk about mem blur rates. I noticed it seemed high and reported it and I believe Daldaen said he noticed the same and provided evidence and testing showing it was too high. We got a ton of evidence in that thread about mem blur from mez but nothing exact was proven.

Did I ever say this was confirmed somehow? No, I didn't. What did come out in that thread though was the proven mem blur doesn't reapply on each cast unless it wears off. That issue I did state as proven.

So you're actually saying that if I make a claim something seems off and discuss it on the bug forum I'm lying and making stuff up. Ok, whatever.

Enchanter animation HP as far as I know was never confirmed to be correct. The HP amounts from the capture didn't match the Wiki. I don't think anyone has actually tested in game to see if the wiki is right or wrong?

That bug report thread I believe ended with confirming all pet HP is too high, that level range is wider for all summoned pets, and that Enchanter pet is much lower than other pets (my original claim). As far as I know no one has tested HP values in game on P99 to compare to the capture. However, I do know that Enchanter animations weren't soloing yellow con mobs ever and it was always a paper thin DPS addition as all classic statements on those pets confirm. Yet on P99 the Enchanter animation is practically just an uncommanded mage/nec pet.

Did you test it in game? Did I miss something? That bug report and capture seems to confirm things are broken yet you think it confirms everything is fine. I could be confused or missing something, let me know.
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:58 PM
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Op why does this hurt you so much I don't play enchanter for a few reasons one of them is because I like to go afk but I think it would suck if you got them nerfed
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Not in my opinion. It would make EQ more difficult and in line with classic which is a good thing. P99 has a serious problem right now with being too easy. That's fine if you like a casual easy game but it's nothing like classic.

I enjoy a challening game. I don't like to mostly AFK in the middle of "challenging raids" and wait for my loot with the other 200 players who easily coasted to max level on broken Enchanter mechanics and such.

Most P99 players wouldn't have the time to get to max level in true classic EQ.
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Old 03-20-2021, 01:14 PM
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I've never made it to 60 on live or here but I can honestly say they could remove enchanter from the game and it would not affect me at all but I'm sure it would take away from alot of people that play the class this game isn't hard not now not ever
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Old 03-20-2021, 01:26 PM
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When did all you Enchanter defenders stop caring about classic EverQuest? NO ONE remembers Enchanters being like this in classic EverQuest!
because Ive played this game long enough to know that what people remember =/= reality.
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Old 03-20-2021, 01:30 PM
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We doing feelings-based science again? This should go to rnf.
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Old 03-20-2021, 01:32 PM
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Mister "high level enchanter", who is so supposedly concerned about classic who ostensibly should be able to easily test the animation hit points himself, care to explain why you haven't actually tested it but still decided to make two different threads regarding it now, both making incorrect claims on the matter?
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