Extensive evidence, full proof that Enchanters are non-classic and must be nerfed.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by drackgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin, you ever thought, your own personal Experience and memories are different then what you truly remember 20 years ago. Also, you ask why did so many enchanters group back then? Simple

A) EQ IS AN MMO. Meaning players wanted to party and group and play with friends. Not everyone is a solo junkie like they do now(blame wiki for that, the thing you love so much)
B) Just bc there was lots of guides, and only 1 charm guide. Doesn't mean crap. How many gamers kept hidden knowledge to themselves? Cough Fire pots, Epic quest info. Not every game wants 2 share their knowledge. Hell I am sure in someones attic, is some nice little notebooks they wrote up guides for THEMSELVES, not to post on Gamefaqs, or Allak, or whatever site.

C) Internet- Have you tried charming while lagging like heck on Dial up? I am sure, how reliable is that vs now on cable connections. Charming is much safer now, bc you had random lag spikes, or DC's on dial up compared to now. Hence very very very few solo'd. (I remeber my uncles friend on his necro soloing alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the time in Lguk with his spec pet, was beyond jelly with my 14 year old eyes bleeding in nerdgasm)

D) Instead of focusing on Enchanters. How bout you focus on Necros.. Who still can't life tap most mobs in game. Bc of a damn Ivanders hoop(instead of nerfing it, they nerf'd a whole damn class oh and SKs) Also Cant send pets across zone like you could.. Wheres this classic fixes at??? Druid Track still wrong. Never had the pre hate event in kith. SSTAMINA?? Where is the drain when I swim? Or swing a sword? There are buffs/songs that was DESIGNED for this feature.

I hate how so much changes are based on info on wayback. Some yes I am sure is great info. But most of it is just bc Look one person said it. Its gotta be true.

This. You know how much I went LD? I went LD every time the phone rang. I'd have never charmed by myself lol

[strongNpretty]

The stamina fix would be a game changer for the better here. I would love to see stamina finally working again.. Strategies would change, items that seem useless would have use, it would be a nice change for sure.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by strongNpretty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The stamina fix would be a game changer for the better here. I would love to see stamina finally working again.. Strategies would change, items that seem useless would have use, it would be a nice change for sure.

zing please?

[drackgon]

Agred strong. It made playing tanks and shit that much different and fun. I loved it. You realize how much harder it is 2 actually gain threat when each swing burnt it.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess this is the point where we agree to disagree. I think it's incredibly illogical to think that there were many multiples more Druids on live, all trying to earn XP as quickly as they could ... but not a one was willing to try using a spell on their list.

Or actually, it's worse than that: we know for a fact that there were Druid charm guides back then! So really you're arguing not only that people ignored their own spell list, but also that they ignored explicit guides telling them to charm ,,, despite the fact that it could mean faster XP.

That doesn't at all sounds like how EverQuest players (in any era) were.

simply explain 1 thing:

Why was nobody was charming in the bear pits for 5-8 years on p99 except for a select few very elite players?

Or why people were barely if ever, even doing it in SK back then?

Because up until recently, then druid charming/enchanter charming was nerfed?

Everyone and their grandpa can defeat the solo artist challange now, but it was only a hyper select few for years, whats the deal?

[drackgon]

I for one remember Bear pits druids on ERollis Marr. It was like a niche spot that only druids dominated(that I personally seen).. Hence when I came to green I knew about it w/o wiki[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Danth]

Originally Posted by drackgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agred strong. It made playing tanks and shit that much different and fun. I loved it. You realize how much harder it is 2 actually gain threat when each swing burnt it.

The stamina bar might be "exhibit A" for why I'm leery of seeing changes made to random-duration spells without really good evidence: The past occasions P99 has tried to implement stamina based on "feel" it was so over-wrought and harsh that it was horrid and crippling and worse than simply not implementing it at all.

[drackgon]

Danth I would hope if they did it. Like test it a lot. I just remember swapping to 2handers with really slow delay. To regen. Then back to sword and board. A lot.

[starkind]

Were at the point where the best bet for a truly authentic classic experience is a retro game from scratch with the dice rolls incrementally tuned and the nerfs where necessary to get people more interested in grouping. Also some rigorous antibotting and anti boxing technology. Crypto. Pgp keys and authentication and not a free account for every Russian email address u can roll.

[strongNpretty]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

zing please?

ZING!