When an antivaxxer get covid

[Toxigen]

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[cd288]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hahaha, no it doesn't. It would only mean that if EVERY single person in america got covid. Tons and tons of people die from smoking and alcohol, which are totally unnecessary vices that tax the healthcare system far more. Do you want to outlaw them? I'd assume not, because with those things you understand that life entails a certain level of risk.

The delta variant is more contagious, true. It's also far less lethal. Viruses very often become less lethal over time, because it's in their interest to not kill their hosts. So they often mutate into less lethal versions to maximize reproduction over time. I learned that in like highschool biology. The fact is, not treating a seriously ill person, who might not even HAVE covid but is just not vaccinated for it, is seriously evil medical malpractice. And you're calling the right a "death cult", get real.

I wouldn't even really sya they "tax" the healthcare system in terms of putting a strain on it because many of those smoking and alcohol deaths are due to long term health effects. So you don't have packed ICUs and hospitals running out of oxygen because people drink alcohol. Whereas COVID puts a huge strain on the local healthcare system and infrastructure; you see it nonstop in these places where the ICUs are almost at (or are at) capacity due to COVID patients...people with other medical emergencies can't get the help they need.

For example, during the pandemic in NYC we have people dying in waiting rooms, in chairs, sitting on the floor in hallways, etc. because they couldn't get full treatment because the doctors and nurses had so many COVID patients that they were dealing with. You had people dying at home because ambulances couldn't get to them because they were already answering COVID calls nonstop.

You don't have that happening because people choose to smoke cigarettes and drink.

[Toxigen]

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-ge...ren/a-54463436

just gonna leave this here...

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't even really sya they "tax" the healthcare system in terms of putting a strain on it because many of those smoking and alcohol deaths are due to long term health effects. So you don't have packed ICUs and hospitals running out of oxygen because people drink alcohol. Whereas COVID puts a huge strain on the local healthcare system and infrastructure; you see it nonstop in these places where the ICUs are almost at (or are at) capacity due to COVID patients...people with other medical emergencies can't get the help they need.

For example, during the pandemic in NYC we have people dying in waiting rooms, in chairs, sitting on the floor in hallways, etc. because they couldn't get full treatment because the doctors and nurses had so many COVID patients that they were dealing with. You had people dying at home because ambulances couldn't get to them because they were already answering COVID calls nonstop.

You don't have that happening because people choose to smoke cigarettes and drink.

At the beginning of the pandemic, when infections were highest, why was that emergency navy medical boat never even used? Why were the impromptu field hospitals barely used and eventually closed? Again I'm not saying this isn't an issue *anywhere*, it's just simply not a widespread issue; most hospitals are managing just fine. Also, most hospitals usually do operate at close to full capacity because it makes no financial sense to have hundreds of extra beds and equipment that are never used but have to be maintained and paid for.

So, sure, in some places they are overburdened due to covid, and that's unfortunate obviously I don't want people dying in the hallways, but it is not the apocalyptic issue people are making it out to be.

[Horza]

Idaho allows COVID-slammed hospitals to ration care for first time ever.

The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare quietly enacted the move Monday and publicly announced it in a statement Tuesday morning—warning residents that they may not get the care they would normally expect if they need to be hospitalized.

The move came as the state's confirmed coronavirus cases skyrocketed in recent weeks. Idaho has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the U.S. The state health agency cited "a severe shortage of staffing and available beds in the northern area of the state caused by a massive increase in patients with COVID-19 who require hospitalization."

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idaho allows COVID-slammed hospitals to ration care for first time ever.

The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare quietly enacted the move Monday and publicly announced it in a statement Tuesday morning—warning residents that they may not get the care they would normally expect if they need to be hospitalized.

The move came as the state's confirmed coronavirus cases skyrocketed in recent weeks. Idaho has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the U.S. The state health agency cited "a severe shortage of staffing and available beds in the northern area of the state caused by a massive increase in patients with COVID-19 who require hospitalization."

You're just cherry picking, I can do that too here watch: In my city the hospital is totally fine.

My whole point is that it's not a *widespread* problem. You're only going to find news stories about places where it *is* a problem, nobody is going to write a news story saying "Hospital totally fine and normal", so there's a huge selection bias creating the illusion that this is happening everywhere. It's not.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're just cherry picking, I can do that too here watch: In my city the hospital is totally fine.

My whole point is that it's not a *widespread* problem. You're only going to find news stories about places where it *is* a problem, nobody is going to write a news story saying "Hospital totally fine and normal", so there's a huge selection bias creating the illusion that this is happening everywhere. It's not.

You heard it here first, folks. Conservatives will happily depopulate Idaho to appease their rape daddy.

[imperiouskitten]

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same lol.

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[Gravydoo II]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals...h=30a174bc6bb5

Almost 78% of beds in U.S. hospital intensive care units are in use, and roughly one-third of adult ICU patients (or 22,345) have the coronavirus, according to data from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

Alabama has the nation’s worst capacity crunch, with HHS reporting more ICU patients than total beds — health officials said Alabama ran out of ICU capacity Wednesday and dozens of patients were forced to wait for space, as the state grapples with the country’s eighth-highest Covid-19 infection rate (cases have dropped off slightly in the last week).

In Georgia, 94% of statewide ICU beds are currently in use following a 74% jump in daily coronavirus cases over the last two weeks, and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported some Atlanta hospitals needed to divert ambulances due to capacity issues.

ICU capacity sits at 93.2% in Florida and 93% in Mississippi, which have the nation’s third-highest and highest new Covid-19 infection rates, respectively.

Texas reported ICU usage of 92.7%, and Dallas-area hospitals warned Thursday that if their region runs out of intensive care beds, they may need to consider vaccination status when prioritizing who to treat.

Kentucky is using 90.7% of its ICU beds, and Gov. Andy Beshear said Wednesday every hospital bed in the state may be taken up in the next two weeks.

ICU occupancy is above 80% in 10 other states: Louisiana (89.3%), Missouri (88.9%), Oklahoma (87.9%), Arkansas (87.4%), Nevada (85.4%), North Carolina (84.8%), South Carolina (83.8%), New Mexico (83.6%), Idaho (82.7%) and Maine (80.4%).

TANGENT
Hospital admissions have risen nationwide in recent weeks. An average of 11,521 new Covid-19 patients were admitted to hospitals every day in the week ending Tuesday, up 48% in two weeks, according to the CDC. Daily hospitalizations are still below their early January peak, when more than 16,000 Americans entered hospitals with the coronavirus every day.



The virus must be cherry picking republican states and 3rd world hell holes like alabama, huh?

Amazing. They will say anything.. "Theres one bed left! thats not full!!" to try avoid the fact that they are wrong, listen to a rape daddy for medical advice, and ready to chow down PARASITE medicine for a virus. I present to you the republican education system.

I guess you could say 78% is not "wide spread" but when is it? 79%? 80%? 90%? Cause, when I learned math, if its like more than 50 of 100, thats more and half. 78 out of 100 is more than three quarters. So if I took mustard and slathered it over 78% of your house, that would not be wide spread. Got it.

[Toxigen]

Hey Gravyidiot

For most level 1 trauma centers and tertiary care facilities, operating intensive care units at 80 percent to 90 percent capacity is standard — even before the COVID-19 pandemic hit. But the intensity and duration of caring for severely ill patients during the pandemic have presented unique challenges for hospitals.

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