<ST> cucking out of Green99 due to Kingdom taking their merbz

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by bomaroast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's spring time. Summer is coming. Time to log off for six months. You can do it!

I logged off for years and just came back lol, but I return super casual and no longer willing to allow games to dictate what I do on nights or weekends. Seriously, I would often choose to not go out because I wanted to stay in playing games. No more.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Choosing to keep it as it was in classic does not mean it can't or won't be used in spite. That's the thing. Unless the majority of the server votes for it it's basically done in spite.

This is incorrect. Nobody is forcing you to play P99. By playing P99, you are agreeing to play within all the rules and gameplay mechanics created by the developers. How can you spitefully do something within rules everybody has agreed upon? If Sleeper is a dealbreaker rule, you stop playing P99.

[MrSparkle001]

The rules allow for spite, that's how. You awake the Sleeper so that nobody else can get Warder loot.

Being allowed by the rules does not mean it can't be done out of spite. Imagine if a guild awoke the Sleeper and then quit the server with a middle finger? Allowed and done in spite.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rules allow for spite, that's how. You awake the Sleeper so that nobody else can get Warder loot.

Being allowed by the rules does not mean it can't be done out of spite. Imagine if a guild awoke the Sleeper and then quit the server with a middle finger? Allowed and done in spite.

No. That is not how spite works. You can't spitefully do something everybody has agreed upon. By playing P99, you agree that Sleeper can be awoken at any time. Unless you can show me the staff enforced rule that says the entire server has to agree to wake the Sleeper?

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. That is not how spite works. You can't spitefully do something everybody has agreed upon. By playing P99, you agree that Sleeper can be awoken at any time. Unless you can show me the staff enforced rule that says the entire server has to agree to wake the Sleeper?

spite

Malicious ill will prompting an urge to hurt or humiliate another person

a particular instance of such an attitude or action; grudge

something that causes vexation; annoyance

to annoy or thwart

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

spite

Malicious ill will prompting an urge to hurt or humiliate another person

a particular instance of such an attitude or action; grudge

something that causes vexation; annoyance

to annoy or thwart

Precisely. It is not possible to maliciously play a game by rules everybody has agreed upon. Please show me an example of how someone can maliciously run around East Commonlands. And please don't try to ask "What if they are training people while running around?", because that is already against the rules lol.

It is spiteful to train people, because that is not an intended use of the game mechanics, which is why it is also against the rules. You are comparing apples to oranges, as you love to say[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. That is not how spite works. You can't spitefully do something everybody has agreed upon. By playing P99, you agree that Sleeper can be awoken at any time. Unless you can show me the staff enforced rule that says the entire server has to agree to wake the Sleeper?

Nope. Unless the server agreed by vote or something to wake the Sleeper it can be done in spite, and so far looks like it was from what I've been reading.

Spite has nothing to do with the rules. Like I said, if a guild woke the Sleeper as a big F.U. to the server before quitting it's spite. Totally allowed but still spite.

Not that I care, I'm just bored at work today.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope. Unless the server agreed by vote or something to wake the Sleeper it can be done in spite, and so far looks like it was from what I've been reading.

Spite has nothing to do with the rules. Like I said, if a guild woke the Sleeper as a big F.U. to the server before quitting it's spite. Totally allowed but still spite.

Not that I care, I'm just bored at work today.

There are no rules that require Sleeper to be awoken by a server-wide vote. By playing P99 you agree to the rule created by the developers, which state Sleeper can be awoken at any time for any reason. You cannot maliciously do that, even if you claim ill intent. I could say that I am maliciously running around East Commonlands, but that doesn't make it true.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Precisely. It is not possible to maliciously play a game by rules everybody has agreed upon. Please show me an example of how someone can maliciously run around East Commonlands. And please don't try to ask "What if they are training people while running around?", because that is already against the rules lol.

It is spiteful to train people, because that is not an intended use of the game mechanics, which is why it is also against the rules. You are comparing apples to oranges, as you love to say[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so hypothetically, what about someone camping a mob needed for an epic just to keep others from obtaining it? Nothing in the rules say you can't camp a mob but that's spite. What about someone camping the ancient cyclops not because they want the boots but because they don't want anyone else getting the boots?

Rules and spite are two different things.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so hypothetically, what about someone camping a mob needed for an epic just to keep others from obtaining it? Nothing in the rules say you can't camp a mob but that's spite. What about someone camping the ancient cyclops not because they want the boots but because they don't want anyone else getting the boots?

Rules and spite are two different things.

If you camp the mob within the rules of the PnP, it cannot be spite. Why? Because you could also camp the mob for the exact same amount of time for a non-spiteful reason, and the outcome would be exactly the same. If I camp a mob for 20 hours to deny a player loot, or I camp a mob for 20 hours because I want the loot, what is the difference? The other player is still waiting 20 hours lol.