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View Poll Results: What's Next for P99?
Green 2.0 : new progression server that eventually merges into Green 1.0 45 24.19%
Purple 99 : VZ/TZ server race based pvp 31 16.67%
Wipe Red99 : peak players is 30 anyways, will increase ms by 0.1 on Green and Blue 18 9.68%
Merge Green 1.0 into Blue 92 49.46%
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:44 PM
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I can't imagine a reason why P99 staff would decide to keep the two separate
Because they died to covid and no one told anyone
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:46 PM
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Too many people on blue, why would you want to merge green into it?
Blue usually has about 15-20% less population than Green. Both servers are below my completely made up "healthy population number" of 1200-1300 on any given day. The overcrowding doesn't seem to occur until 1700+ are online at the same time. Again, not a bad thing as the intrinsic value of the game increases across multiple facets.

There's benefits to merging, without a doubt. Blue players are more experienced and knowledgeable based upon time in era alone and this experience resonates. There is so much knowledge on Blue to be shared and it would be a shame to let that wither away and die as it benefits all players. Intuitive players on Green that came from Blue would be wise not to share a lot of knowledge based upon competition alone. Most Blue players won't hesitate to enlighten other players and "share the love", if you will.

What more reason is needed beyond the ability to interact with more people while forming new friendships and potential enemies, or at the least competitors? Dynamics are important and part of the magic of the game.
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Old 04-19-2022, 08:56 PM
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Green goes into blue, and a new green opens... id rather believe what was said then speculate.
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Old 04-19-2022, 09:00 PM
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If anything, I actually find it more surprising how *few* old players are left. For example, I quit in Dec 2016. I returned a few months ago. I would say I've seen about ten players still playing from when I quit.

Kunark era is when the game grew a lot, so the list doesn't change much here. Detoxx, Liia, Franswa, Eratani, Faumieni, few others (apologies to anyone I forgot are the only people left I remember from that era.

Going back even further - Vanlla, and Guise/Manastone/Rubicite era I only know of a single other Vanilla era player who is still active that I knew personally - Eratani.

Over the 13 year span, I personally played for about one year after each expansion release, so about 3 yrs total. In that time I was in 3 (kinda 4) guilds - Inglourious Basterds, Rampage/TR, and Awakened. Of those guildmatess, I can think of eight people who are still active.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some people, but that's still pretty grim. I suspect the people who have played the most are actually players who began during Kunark or Velious. In fact, prior to.. I guess we'll call it "the zerg era" (when dragons were rooted for god knows what reason) - this game had a reputation for dying quickly as soon as every expansion was beat. Hell, in IB and Rampage we didn't even pretend to want to stay. I remember hearing stuff like "can we wake the Sleeper finally so I can stop playing" or "I wish Trak would drop the staff so we can stop logging on every 3 days". Awakened was the first guild I was in that seemed like it had intention of building something - which it did, quite well in my opinion.

Speaking strictly in terms of people who have played the most - I don't think there's much debate here - Eratani almost certainly is the leader. It's also worth noting he's one of the most well liked and well adjusted raiders in the game. Second place is probably Detoxx, and yeah, things do start to look grim. A lot of raiders today seem to be very unhappy, hateful people. I think the current rule structure fosters an environment where you are competing against your own guildmates as much as anyone else.

Unroot the dragons and Detoxx will have time to deliver all the pizzas again.


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Old 04-19-2022, 09:03 PM
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Uh, I guess I will if that ever happens... ?

It's kinda creepy how obsessed you are with me dude. I'm literally known for being a nobody. You're doing it wrong.
Oh wow someone beat me to it..

What do you mean you would if it ever happens.. it did happen... your nuts rofl
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Old 04-20-2022, 12:28 AM
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Both servers are below my completely made up "healthy population number" of 1200-1300 on any given day.
I'm with you on the population thing. I think it's sad when I hop on blue to make a new alt that I rarely find people to group with, which forced me over to Green so I can actually enjoy grouping and leveling through nostalgic content.

I think the server admins very much cater to the hard-core raiders, and presently these people tend to be the most vitriolic, game-killing group. Elite raiders hate other people, hell they hate the "warm bodies" in their own guilds. It's like if you aren't a jobless, socially awkward shut-in who can devote 10-14hrs a day playing every day then you aren't worthy of pixels.

The one benefit to a new server is that it spreads this autistic raiding proportion out to essentially another opportunity of raiding content, not to mention another opportunity at highly valuable legacy items that most people didn't have a chance to get when Blue first started. More raiding content, if you will, makes it slightly more possible to experience end game content without having to become a souless raider.

I mean, who ever thought Kittens would become a raiding guild? I used to be in that guild back when the vast majority of players were sub level 40, back when they were kind and fun.
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Old 04-20-2022, 04:48 AM
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Ya. We seriously need the government to manage p99s sunset.
Rogean should just earthquake, wait 5 seconds, and pull the server plug so everyone batphones and nobody can connect.
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Old 04-20-2022, 06:25 AM
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remember GM reserve blue characters name for green players? how do they gonna solve duplicate character name if green and blue merge togather?
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Old 04-20-2022, 07:10 AM
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They already stated a new green might be a possibility, the potential for a merge is also in discussions. Setting aside people's preference if we take a pragmatic view on things, only 2 outcomes can happen.

1. Green and Blue both go on their separate ways with no fresh new server and no merge happening. The easiest and laziest solution to this issue. Let green grow as old as current blue and just keep the status quo.

2. Fresh Green 2.0 comes out.

Now if we're going by the second option, I do not believe for one second we're going to see a triple server solution (I don't count red). They initially made two servers when the neckbeard army trying to get a guise/manastone was far bigger than anticipated, but separating the decent but small community into 3 servers was never a solution. Which is why Teal got gobbled up by Green eventually.

It's bad enough trying to answer the petitions of 2 active servers, the increased workload of policing 3 simultaneously is something I believe the GMs will not do in the long run.

So between not wanting to split the population into 3 servers, and not having to deal with another set of raiders crying about welfare loot or rooted dragons, if a fresh Green 2.0 comes out, it most likely means a merge of Blue + Green 1.0. Now that the sleeper has awoken on Green, it's probably a lot easier to copy paste the characters over.

From a logistics point of view, they would open up character creation on Green 2.0 one week in advance for the residents of Green 1.0, so that they can get first access to name reserves on the fresh server. They'll do this because when Green merges with Blue, all their names will be reset on Blue to accommodate the original Blue residents. This way old Green users gets their name on new Green ahead of Blue and Blue keeps their names with the influx of old Green.
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Old 04-20-2022, 09:19 AM
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remember GM reserve blue characters name for green players? how do they gonna solve duplicate character name if green and blue merge togather?
The same way every MMORPG handles name conflicts when you merge servers. The person that had the name longer keeps it and the other person gets a free rename.
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