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Old 07-12-2022, 12:43 AM
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obviously, with the exception of china... and that's largely because chinese history is of some interest to me, and having spent a lot of time in wacko leftist spaces, the tankies always roll in at some point, so you get familiar with the general concepts i guess.l
Oh yea, like what?

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Old 07-12-2022, 12:49 AM
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Oh yea, like what?

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the taiping rebellion alwayd comes to mind. dude thought he was the younger brother of jesus, and yes, an absurd number of people died, as happens in chinese history

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Old 07-12-2022, 12:52 AM
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i don't know much about this stuff. i don't know. That's juche or something, right? i generally avoid applying american templates to non-american states

obviously, with the exception of china... and that's largely because chinese history is of some interest to me, and having spent a lot of time in wacko leftist spaces, the tankies always roll in at some point, so you get familiar with the general concepts i guess.

like the extent of my chinese history is that famous book by some literal nazi dude which is on project gutenberg and then that 36 hour or so great courses thing on audible. notably, neither author is chinese.

also, the holes in my brain don't allow for super duper recall
Would you describe them as (r) republicans?

Would you describe their economics as liberal?

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Old 07-12-2022, 12:58 AM
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Would you describe them as (r) republicans?

Would you describe their economics as liberal?

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i would describe both liberals and republicans generally as neoliberal capitalists

and the chinese as... whatever xi said. socialism with chinese characteristics. dengism. state-driven centrally planned capitalism with a socialist coat of paint. liberal insofar as some outgroups get rights but not others. women may have some rights in china but i imagine it's tough to be gay. no idea about trans folks in china. ive never set foot in china.

most of the few things i know about china are the things that led to the days of mao, not what happened afterwards. i see people saying "actually The Great Leap Forward was good" and i know i'm talking with a large baby
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i would describe both liberals and republicans generally as neoliberal capitalists

and the chinese as... whatever xi said. socialism with chinese characteristics. dengism. state-driven centrally planned capitalism with a socialist coat of paint. liberal insofar as some outgroups get rights but not others. women may have some rights in china but i imagine it's tough to be gay. no idea about trans folks in china. ive never set foot in china.

most of the few things i know about china are the things that led to the days of mao, not what happened afterwards. i see people saying "actually The Great Leap Forward was good" and i know i'm talking with a large baby
Ok fine we can digress!

Is China a republic and are planned economies >le good?
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:14 AM
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Hey Rob, did you get a rainbow-color cast or is it plain white?
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:18 AM
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Ok fine we can digress!

Is China a republic and are planned economies >le good?
i don't think so and not at the scale of an entire nation the size of china. i gather they're brutal to a lot of workers. even if they capitalismed a huge chunk of people out of poverty, exploitation of wage labor is still... exploitative. and pollution. and there's the imperialism to boot, just like america.

china's a special boy because they have a lot in common with america and we all know it and nobody wants to acknowledge it.

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Hey Rob, did you get a rainbow-color cast or is it plain white?
i don't get this joke. i am in typical physical health, with no broken anything. this isn't why i am here. maybe you're trying to set up a joke. i've never even had a cast even as a kid when i broke my pinky. they put an aluminum bendy sleeve on it and wrapped it with tape.
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i don't think so and not at the scale of an entire nation the size of china. i gather they're brutal to a lot of workers. even if they capitalismed a huge chunk of people out of poverty, exploitation of wage labor is still... exploitative. and pollution. and there's the imperialism to boot, just like america.

china's a special boy because they have a lot in common with america and we all know it and nobody wants to acknowledge it.

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which part?

is china a republic or are planned economies bad?
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:36 AM
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which part?

is china a republic or are planned economies bad?
first sentence in my shot from the hip post contains my answer to both
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