student loans are a hit!

[Origen]

It's just the "starve the beast" strategy.

Try solving the poverty itself, even a Republican who does so gets called a socialist. That's why the John Birch people called Eisenhower a commie

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This will totally stop me from calling racists racists

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[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then you know, the military has a name for when, during bad suck, the rule of the day, every damn day, is FUBAR.

I know some survivors, some people who hold steady. Those people are like magicians to me. I'm an old white dude who, since I wuz raised in Long Island NY and NOT THE NORTH FUCKING SHORE, has always been around the whole mix. But, guess what. You think I ever got busted for shoplifting? And you want to bet it was because I *knew* how to look "right"?

That's all spilt milk under the bridge. Now I'm in the countryside, cuz cheep.

The nearest I can tell the police treat the "poor" half of town (I live right above it... come on, man, I'm old) as an inmate farm. They bust em, bail em, probation them, and then, bust for prob violation which is the money shot sentence wise.

Is it the police the problem? Fuckin police think they are in Fallujah an hour drive from Amish land, fucking pussies.

I'm gonna say a simple word here that has caused literally millions of idiots to make fools of themselves over the past few years.

The problems are not really "personal". They are structural.

Word of the day: structural. It means: nothing to do with you *or anyone* personally at all, one single bit.

Unless you decide to deny it. Or decide to maybe fix it some.

A lot of people will choose to deny the problem if you tell them they are who must suffer to fix it.

#YOLO

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's just the "starve the beast" strategy.

Try solving the poverty itself, even a Republican who does so gets called a socialist. That's why the John Birch people called Eisenhower a commie

You and your wife wouldn’t be too happy if the medical field spontaneously used focusing on solving the “root causes” of cancer rather than treating people who have cancer right now

Police are a right now solution to crime. This fantasy idea of solving poverty with our infinite resource generator is a years-down-the road solution, if that

Any sane person should also always fear crime more than police. Crime can get really fucking brutal when we are talking gang violence

[Origen]

No, we wouldn't, but oncologists aren't killing minorities in disproportionate numbers and suffering zero consequences when they do

Oncologists aren't working hand in hand with real estate interests to crush the poor and homeless with bipartisan support

I am not opposed to the existence of police, but I would very much like to disarm them and distribute their too-numerous roles into a more manageable set of expectations. You know, reform.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, we wouldn't, but oncologists aren't killing minorities in disproportionate numbers and suffering zero consequences when they do

Oncologists aren't working hand in hand with real estate interests to crush the poor and homeless with bipartisan support

I am not opposed to the existence of police, but I would very much like to disarm them and distribute their too-numerous roles into a more manageable set of expectations. You know, reform.

What you call reform I call better training

That requires strict qualifications for the quality of professional who can handle this difficult and rigorous training. This means not hamstringing their ability to hire and train the right people

This is all very simple

[Origen]

So, once again, more of the same? Despite the brief murmurs of "defund the police", police budgets still went up nationally almost everywhere?

Look for articles on the APD, GSP, and the Atlanta Forest Defenders.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I do not think it is so simple

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, once again, more of the same? Despite the brief murmurs of "defund the police", police budgets still went up nationally almost everywhere?

Look for articles on the APD, GSP, and the Atlanta Forest Defenders.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I do not think it is so simple

Fucking up on the job in an obvious police-brutality type of way, whether intentional or not, is either a training issue, or it is a hiring issue

It doesn’t matter what the service is, want companies/agencies/etc to hire people that not only can perform their job ethically and legally, but also not get burnt out with all the negative on the job behaviors that come with that

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, once again, more of the same? Despite the brief murmurs of "defund the police", police budgets still went up nationally almost everywhere?

Look for articles on the APD, GSP, and the Atlanta Forest Defenders.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I do not think it is so simple

How else can we maintain those good-paying union jobs?

Gotta keep up with inflation to stay where you're at.

e: Sadre evaluate this conspiracy theory. Someone was tricked.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, we wouldn't, but oncologists aren't killing minorities in disproportionate numbers and suffering zero consequences when they do

Oncologists aren't working hand in hand with real estate interests to crush the poor and homeless with bipartisan support

I am not opposed to the existence of police, but I would very much like to disarm them and distribute their too-numerous roles into a more manageable set of expectations. You know, reform.

Chauvin is currently probably getting raped in prison for "murdering" a black guy, even though he was actually just employing a tactic that his particular department had approved of. But he's white and floyd was black so hey it must be racisms!

Some minority groups commit more crime than others, so they naturally are over represented in prisons. Asians being an exception; they actually commit less crime than white people, and hey look at that- there are fewer asians in jail per-capita than whites! Disparities in incarceration rates don't just automatically mean racism, but that's the kind of moronic conclusion you can come to when you just guzzle leftist koolaid all day.

Most poor black people *don't* commit crime, so I don't want to hear blatant excuse-making for those that do.