Player Agreement: Rule Change at the DS Camp

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by servirus06 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Berbax, sadly all u have proposed has been thought in blue the biggest problem is DS is not a 100% drop rate.

Neither were most /list camps.

[FatMice]

Originally Posted by berbax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Standard GG response.

Edit: I guess I'll elaborate

It's clear that your response is meant to be provocative rather than constructive. Let’s me fix each point you're suggesting:

Sneaker Drop Analogy: The comparison to a sneaker drop isn't accurate. The suggestion isn't about jumping the line, but about implementing a system that allows fair access for everyone, similar to how a lottery or raffle system works for high-demand items.

High-Demand Commodities: The current system forces players to camp 24 hours a day to obtain an item, which is neither fair nor healthy. My proposal aims to ensure everyone has a reasonable chance, much like how roll systems have already been successfully implemented for other high-demand camps.

Grocery Store Analogy: Again, this analogy misses the mark. The suggestion is not about pushing others aside but about creating a structured, orderly system that prevents monopolization by a few and distributes opportunities more equitably.

Personal Insults: Resorting to personal insults, such as the Prius comment, clearly rude. The focus should be on the merits of the proposed change, not on attacking those who suggest them.

The goal is to foster a healthier and more equitable environment for all players. P99 has already adapted and implemented similar changes in the past, demonstrating that the community values fair access and reduced toxicity. This proposal follows that same principle.

You got me! Next time you see any GG at DS make sure you show them this post. I'm sure they will agree, you can have the camp ok?

[Digz]

I've seen "first come first served" tossed out in here. In the case of 24 hour camps by mega-guilds, it's not that. It's an "Our guild was here first, we're gonna swap in/out players as we see fit and block others from getting this". There's literally 0% chance of getting these things if you're not part of the team that's blocking everyone else.

Those of you who played in 1999 would remember that camps weren't held by guilds, they were held by a 6 player group from whatever affiliation, one person leaves, next person on a manually maintained list joins, loot given in order. People in the group usually had a pencil and paper with them to track the list and ensure fairness.

As Berbax also said, there have been a ton of player-made rule changes in the name of fairness and to prevent just such scenarios. Look at lists, Scout, Angry, racing to Vindi, Vulak, etc. The precedent exists.

Does anyone want this server to devolve to the point of 3 or 4 guilds owning everything and the rest of the players settling for the scraps? That's where it's headed, very very quickly.

[enjchanter]

Nah u guys didn't want instances so you don't got instances

Enjoy suffering

[fortior]

Originally Posted by Digz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does anyone want this server to devolve to the point of 3 or 4 guilds owning everything and the rest of the players settling for the scraps? That's where it's headed, very very quickly.

Guildless players don’t even deserve scraps. Let them starve.

[Digz]

Interesting you assume that just because someone isn't in Kingdom, GG, Castle... that means they're guildless.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Digz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting you assume that just because someone isn't in Kingdom, GG, Castle... that means they're guildless.

They basically are

[Digz]

@fortior @ripqozko If you're joking at least have the decency to put a laughing emoji. If not then... wow.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Digz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@fortior @ripqozko If you're joking at least have the decency to put a laughing emoji. If not then... wow.

Not my fault someone can't make it into a real guild

[Digz]

@ripqozko You mean they can't type "Hey can I join"?