On personhood

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by F0rmsh1fter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really relevant, and that verse from mark isn’t part of Jesus being tempted in the desert. Are you implying one must lose their soul in order to achieve personhood?

Wasn't saying it was. It's a recapitulation of the choice. We all face the choice.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by F0rmsh1fter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which is to say that one no longer qualifies as a person if any of the criteria are absent

Reread the original responses edit. It's not as binary as all of that! A bunch more detail was added.

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Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By definition once a slice is removed from a pizza that piece then becomes a slice of pizza where was for example said pizza had 8 slices the remains then becomes 7/8ths of a pizza. Both of these things are no longer subjectively or conceptually a pizza they become pizza adjacent, by qualification.

To be more precise. An 8 slice pizza becomes one slice if pizza and 7/8ths of an 8 slice pizza. This can be as granular and fine detailed as awareness and language permits. With many more properties and adjectives applied. However once something changes it is then something else. And everything in this reality or awareness is always changing from its inception. From likely before even the point of awareness.

Hedging all of ones bets on personhood or it's many variations there of remaining the same is a delusion.

Is personhood finite? Or real? That is the truth. It's just made up by humanity to segregate and separate itself from the truth too be honest! The more detailed answer in the original reply is however, more accurate!

Whereas a binary definition of personhood is as flawed as the concept of personhood is itself.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reread the original responses edit. It's not as binary as all of that! A bunch more detail was added.

 

Is personhood finite? Or real? That is the truth. It's just made up by humanity to segregate and separate itself from the truth too be honest! The more detailed answer in the original reply is however, more accurate!

Whereas a binary definition of personhood is as flawed as the concept of personhood is itself.

It’s more a legality, but it’s also observable in general. You can tell within a few minutes of meeting someone whether or not they’re a person

Though it’s absolutely not intended to separate as it stands. We’re in the age of inclusivity where many undeserving individuals are afforded privileges while the overqualified are suppressed in the name of equity

Furthermore I believe it would serve to bring everyone together under single banner of moving society forward if we would observe this reality that governments go to great lengths to enforce ignoring. If non persons were put to good use and persons were pushed into roles that test their potential, we could in a sense min/max advancement

[magnetaress]

Does one, by crude definition lose personhood when dead? Historically that personhood existed, therefore by the nature of the universe, arrow of time, causality, and all that. That person has to always exist for the present universe to exist. This proves through relation and causality, a person can never be erased. Personhood can never be truly, retroactively revoked.

However this is all based on the flawed and false view of personhood in the first place [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by F0rmsh1fter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s more a legality, but it’s also observable in general. You can tell within a few minutes of meeting someone whether or not they’re a person

Though it’s absolutely not intended to separate as it stands. We’re in the age of inclusivity where many undeserving individuals are afforded privileges while the overqualified are suppressed in the name of equity

No one is truly an individual though 😘

[loramin]

Personhood is a biased term: it only ever comes up when someone is trying to deny it.

No one questions whether the person walking next to them on the street is a person: it's only used when discussing whether fetuses ... or the brain dead, or criminals, or members of a racial/ethnic/national group you don't like ... "deserve" to be considered human.

As a result, there's no one "right" meaning, because that meaning is inherently tied to people's opinions (on the issues where the term gets used).

[shovelquest]

AI personhood incoming lol

[magnetaress]

You would not exist as you do now after reading this post. By definition this post changed you. Because this post is you. Because you are temporary and "you" are also this post now. Therefore you are not just you. In truth there is no you. Just this experience tied into the existence of everything in the universe.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AI personhood incoming lol

I’m not opposed to it once they’re advanced enough tbh

[magnetaress]

Well deserves is a strong, flawed word, concept, whatever..

Respect, consideration, compassion, and well being for everything is right action and will lead to the best outcomes.