Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So wait, what was his fourth character then? Since he refused to cut the shaman for the mage/necro, he cut the cleric instead?

It's hard to say, as he continuously moved the goalpost and did a TON of rogue edits(still does), like every post he was editing multiple times and by the time you responded to it it was a completely different post than the original one he provided.

I believe he started with Shaman Enchanter Enchanter Cleric. Then when people just said 3x enc + cleric or 2x enc/cleric/wiz for mobility, I think that might have been when he swapped in the shaman for the cleric as a last ditch effort.

Would love to see an AI summary of that thread, lol.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm saying you were both wrong. Period, full stop.

They edited the wiki with their opinions, without getting consensus from the community or trying to make those edits work for the community. You just blindly undid their edits, instead of trying to incorporate them into the page in a way that works for both of you.

Do you honestly believe Samoht and Zuranthium added those changes in good faith? Should they be left in there?

It wasn't blind, the evidence is in this thread that they are trolling OP.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you honestly believe Samoht and Zuranthium added those changes in good faith?

No I don't. I don't believe your reverted them in good faith either though: I think you both just wanted to be right, and used the wiki as a pawn in your fight.

[loramin]

Imagine the alternative: what if, instead of reverting, you'd changed the page to give soloers the option of whether they wanted to consider potions (or whatever else) to be ok or not, at their discretion?

Both of you could have had your ideas on the same page, and everyone would have benefited. That's what I'm looking for when the lock ends.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I don't. I don't believe your reverted them in good faith either though: I think you both just wanted to be right, and used the wiki as a pawn in your fight.

I didn't start editing the wiki first Loramin. Samoht did. The post history shows that. He created a new score just so OP could get a [B] instead of an [S].

I never would have touched the wiki if he didn't use it as his pawn. As usual, you seem to support trolls instead of punishing them.

[loramin]

Christ, you sound like a five year old child. "Mom, he hit me first!"

Accept it: you were both wrong. It's not a big deal, just try to be better next time.

[Samoht]

The solo artists challenge was brought up in this thread. I make now my case that changes are needed for clarification on overlapping tiers as well as outdated rules from the pre-Velious time frame.

I do not believe anybody is going to have any thoughtful or objective disagreement, but, just in case:

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I fully expect a literal tidal wave of dissenting responses from DSM

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Christ, you sound like a five year old child. "Mom, he hit me first!"

Yes Loramin, if you punch somebody in the face first, you were wrong, and should be punished. Punishing the person who got punched doesn't make sense.

So do you think the changes that were clearly trolling OP should be left on the wiki?

[loramin]

I think the tiers are inherently problematic. I'm not saying the page can't have them, but I think they're where the fights come from, because person A thinks this detail (outside buffs, power clickys, potions, etc.) shouldn't count or should "lower the tier" somehow, and person B doesn't, or thinks it should lower the tier by less.

So look, if the community can agree on tiers, they belong in the wiki. You can say they are "official" because 50 people said so in a forum poll, or whatever.

But if you can't get people to agree on tiers, they don't belong in the wiki, and you should settle for "mitigating factors", or whatever you want to call them, with no "tier".

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes Loramin, if you punch somebody in the face first, you were wrong, and should be punished. Punishing the person who got punched doesn't make sense.

So do you think the changes that were clearly trolling OP should be left on the wiki?

I didn't punish anyone for editing that page, as I already made clear (it'd have been unfair to do so, since it explicitly asked people to edit it).

But you do understand that the lock was temporary (and only for a week), correct?