Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo - Page 85

DeathsSilkyMist · #**841** 07-09-2025, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the tiers are inherently problematic. I'm not saying the page can't have them, but I think they're where the fights come from, because person A thinks this detail (outside buffs, power clickys, potions, etc.) shouldn't count or should "lower the tier" somehow, and person B doesn't, or thinks it should lower the tier by less.

So look, if the community can agree on tiers, they belong in the wiki. You can say they are "official" because 50 people said so in a forum poll, or whatever.

But if you can't get people to agree on tiers, they don't belong in the wiki, and you should settle for "mitigating factors", or whatever you want to call them, with no "tier".

So you agree then that the page should be reverted? No community poll was done for Zuranthium or Samoht's edits of the rankings/tiers/whatever you want to call them.

loramin · #**842** 07-09-2025, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you agree then that the page should be reverted? No community poll was done for Zuranthium or Samoht's edits of the rankings/tiers/whatever you want to call them.

No, we do not agree. The goal of the wiki is not to lock pages to content last written in 2016! Let's not forget, Loraen's challenge didn't even have Velious mobs.

The goal of the wiki is to improve over time, until any particular page is as useful as it can be. I don't think anyone would argue the solo artist page is as useful as it can be, so it should be edited ... just not in a way that picks sides.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**843** 07-09-2025, 02:22 PM

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No, we do not. The goal of the wiki is not to lock pages to content last written in 2016! Let's not forget, Loraen's challenge didn't even have Velious mobs.

The goal of the wiki is to improve over time, until any particular page is as useful as it can be. I don't think anyone would argue the solo artist page is as useful as it can be, so it should be edited ... just not in a way that picks sides.

You are picking Zuranthium and Samohts side by leaving in their changes. How can you not see that? Reverting the page back to it's original state is the only impartial solution.

Samoht · #**844** 07-09-2025, 02:22 PM

I don't think DSM has any argument for why it shouldn't be changed other than he doesn't want to lose this thread.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**845** 07-09-2025, 02:23 PM

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I don't think DSM has any argument for why it shouldn't be changed other than he doesn't want to lose this thread.

My argument is that changes to the wiki done to troll a specific user in a specific thread should be reverted. It's that simple. It doesn't matter who wins or loses. You changed the ranking system to change OP's rank to be lower.

loramin · #**846** 07-09-2025, 02:24 PM

It's a week-long lock! I guarantee you, no one except the losers in this thread have even looked at that page during that entire week!

Ok, maybe there might have been was one random stranger who looked at it during that time, but you have to remember: there is no link to that page on the front page of the site! In fact, I don't think there are any links anywhere in the entire wiki.

This is not some critical page people are checking daily. It's a vanity project that people have to go looking for, and having it sitting with a few edits that bother you for a week won't change that.

Once the lock is up, you or anyone else can make it better ... as long as you do so for everyone.

DeathsSilkyMist · #**847** 07-09-2025, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a week-long lock! I guarantee you, no one except the losers in this thread have even looked at that page during that entire week!

Ok, maybe there might have been was one random stranger who looked at it during that time, but you have to remember: there is no link to that page on the front page of the site! In fact, I don't think there are any links anywhere in the entire wiki.

This is not some critical page people are checking daily. It's a vanity project that people have to go looking for, and it sitting with a few edits that bother you for a week won't change that.

It sounds like you will be reverting the changes then to be impartial once the week lock is up. That is the correct solution.

Samoht · #**848** 07-09-2025, 02:26 PM

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My argument is that changes to the wiki done to troll a specific user in a specific thread should be reverted. It's that simple. It doesn't matter who wins or loses. You changed the ranking system to change OP's rank to be lower.

But now that the glaring flaws in the SAC have come up, they need to be fixed, right? Sometimes you have to put bitterness aside for the sake of progress.

loramin · #**849** 07-09-2025, 02:27 PM

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But now that the glaring flaws in the SAC have come up, they need to be fixed, right? Sometimes you have to put bitterness aside for the sake of progress.

One can only hope someone will do that when the page unlocks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

loramin · #**850** 07-09-2025, 02:28 PM

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It sounds like you will be reverting the changes then to be impartial once the week lock is up. That is the correct solution.

You have (willfully?) bad reading comprehension.