What happened to all of the guilds on Blue, and what is Fuse?

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah yes, the ol' cycle:

Guild 1 gets some raid targets
Guild 2 attempts to compete
Guild 2 realizes its a numbers meta
Guild 2 merges or partners with Guild 3
Guild 2/3 gets some raid targets
Guild 1 makes fun of them for being a zerg
Guild 1 realizes its a numbers meta
Guild 1 merges or partners with Guild 4
Guild 2/3 makes fun of them for being a zerg
.
.
.
etc

How can it possibly be a numbers meta, when you have 10 people doing all the work, while the other 110 sit and soak DKP?

Seems like Guild 2 wanted to MAKE it a numbers meta.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems to me that most Kittens members didn't even want to merge. It was just certain officers and high RA folks who didn't like not getting 100% of targets. So they ruin what is quite possibly Blue's longest standing guild to merge with Riot...

I can only speak for me, but I was all for it. As a core raider, not in management, I understand officers have to deal with logistics when playing a game we don’t have to. Leading raids, dealing with internal squabbles and individuals, answering to the UN for the most inane of proposals by bad faith actors.

I enjoy being around my friends. The vast majority now have a different tag. The ones who retired were mostly tired long before the merge and still chat it up on Discord. Some kittens who retired have come back and apped to Fuse. The new/old Riot friends seem very cool.

This 100% was NOT a push for pixel domination. Or even a variety of pixels. Neither guild had any issue before. It’s possible that opinion was out there for some but it was not the dominant opinion (or one I even know of).

[kjs86z2]

pixel sickness gets everyone in the end

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pixel sickness gets everyone in the end

Ok Toxigen.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can only speak for me, but I was all for it. As a core raider, not in management, I understand officers have to deal with logistics when playing a game we don’t have to. Leading raids, dealing with internal squabbles and individuals, answering to the UN for the most inane of proposals by bad faith actors.

I enjoy being around my friends. The vast majority now have a different tag. The ones who retired were mostly tired long before the merge and still chat it up on Discord. Some kittens who retired have come back and apped to Fuse. The new/old Riot friends seem very cool.

This 100% was NOT a push for pixel domination. Or even a variety of pixels. Neither guild had any issue before. It’s possible that opinion was out there for some but it was not the dominant opinion (or one I even know of).

What was the reason then

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What was the reason then

General membership didn’t take a poll. Maybe it’s just something that happens 10 years after the launch of velious?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

This is the end result of rooted dragons. Unroot dragons, and smaller guilds can compete again. You'd have more small elite guilds instead of just one or two large guilds.

When dragons were unrooted you'd often see 4-5 guilds competing in ToV, including Kittens.

[Tewaz]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the end result of rooted dragons. Unroot dragons, and smaller guilds can compete again. You'd have more small elite guilds instead of just one or two large guilds.

When dragons were unrooted you'd often see 4-5 guilds competing in ToV, including Kittens.

We competed on quakes.

Real problem is natural respawn windows. If those were shorter we would've competed more.

[zelld52]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Real problem is natural respawn windows. If those were shorter we would've competed more.

Yah, I was part of a more-casual guild that also competed on Quakes, but nobody wanted to spend 16/24 hours poopsocking a window, so the natural spawns all went to the guilds with members willing to do that.

That's the real answer. Unrooting dragons would change the raid meta for the hardcore players that can answer batphones at any time of day, and have a core force willing to sock windows.

But it wouldn't open the door for more casual raiders to win targets.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it wouldn't open the door for more casual raiders to win targets.

1 hour FTE lockouts + unrooted would - at least on repop day after a quake where spawn timers are still tight

if your guild cant do the bare minimum then yeah...you won't get shit outside of drafts and quakes

and if your guild isn't willing track, do you even have people competent enough to pull an unrooted dragon to ToV entrance? prob not