Dual wield logic

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are certainly not alone on the MH and OH being linked. It’s very stubborn dogma still believed by many (plus it kind of makes sense that it would be true).

Yeah, that misconception comes up disturbingly often. Maybe it's from some other game.

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, that misconception comes up disturbingly often. Maybe it's from some other game.

It was a misconception even back in 99, I've come across it often.

[BradZax]

The most disappointed I have ever been was when I first unlocked duel wield and i did not hit the enemy twice as much 😭

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The formula to compare efficiency is (weapondmg x2 +dmgbonus)/delay. When in doubt math it out, there's a bunch of oddities out there so general rules might not apply to your situation.

Yep, that's the best rule of thumb for quickly comparing weapons. It's also good to take into account the chance of successfully making the dual wield check. If you look at https://wiki.project1999.com/Dual_Wield, about halfway down there's a table showing the chance of succeeding at levels 50 and 60, and it's about 60-70% chance.

So to continue the example, let's say you're a monk at level 50, and you have a Jade Mace (9/18), an Adamantite Club (15/25), and a Peacebringer (28/30 2hb). The 1h damage bonus at level 50 is 8, and the 2h damage bonus for 30 delay is 13. The dual wield success rate is 75.5%.

So Jade Mace mainhand/Adamantite Club offhand will be (2*9+8)/18 + (2*15 + 0)/25 * .755, or 2.35
Swap the order and it'll be (2*15+8)/25 + (2*9+0)/18 * .755 or 2.28
The peacebringer will be (2*28+13)/30, or 2.30

So even though as Goregasmic points out, Adamantite Club is a better mainhand than Jade Mace, if those are your only two weapons I'd still put Jade Mace in the mainhand.

The other thing to take into account is weapon procs. Offhand weapons proc half as often as mainhand weapons, so if you have a really good weapon proc it might be better as a mainhand even if the ratio is a little worse than other options. But at low levels your dual wield success rate might be only about 30%, so you might want to put your best-ratio weapon in mainhand and best-proc weapon in offhand, figuring that even if you won't actually swing the offhand weapon that often, you'll still get the value of the procs, even at half the mainhand proc rate.