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#52
09-24-2011, 10:07 PM
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Another VZTZ Ranger nerf was Snare duration. It was a very effective way of dealing with pets because the Snare didn't wear off in the fight so it forced the Magician to deal with it as opposed to VZTZ where the snare would wear off the pet in very short order. This made pet classes in VZTZ quite a bit more powerful than they were supposed to be. Magicians were very easy kills for Rangers on live because of snare/ensnare and unlike players on Live where tracking occasionally bugged out, it NEVER bugged out on the pet so it was a 100% guarantee I could always find the Mage whenever I wanted.
It was also effective against heavily debuffed players in guild on guild pvp or if you ever stalemated someone who kept running, you could cast snare 100 times because if it lands ONCE the player was dead. The only class who could really take advantage of that was the Ranger because after if it landed the Ranger gets in melee and you can't dispell it. Good players would be forced to use pre-nerf pumice to get it off, so it didn't actually lead to a kill against them, but it was still a very cheap tactic solely available to Rangers because other MR spells like Root would instantly wear off if it did manage to land on someone with high MR on Live although very few players on live ever bothered trying to Root because of how infrequently it landed. The reason it was worthwhile to cast snare was because regardless of how high your MR is if Snare miraculously landed it would not wear off, you either had to dispell it or die. Snares extremely long duration was a very HUGE advantage for Rangers on live servers that did not exist on VZTZ. | ||
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#55
09-24-2011, 10:39 PM
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The game is a lot different when you can't rely on MR spells to finish players off. Classes that HAD ways to prevent an escape, even by luck, or heavy burst damage to get the job done were in best position to finish people off. Pet classes like Magicians and Necromancers didn't have any way of preventing the Ranger from kiting and unlike Necromancers, Magicians couldn't keep their health up so a Ranger slowly wearing down the Magician, even with old school archery / weak DoTs, would still get the kill and there was nothing the Magician could do about it. I think a lot of you played Magicians on VZTZ which was NOTHING like live PVP so you have this really skewed view of how it was. Not only did Magicians not have as good of a defense that the other casters had, their OFFENSE was not as good either. Unlike Wizards who could land spells, Magicians had more problems with resists than the other casters did. Magicians were a nice addition to guild on guild pvp with damage shields on everyone and their pets buffed to the max and SoW'd. However, in normal one on one PVP Magicians were simply average to slightly above average. I would venture a guess quite a lot of you never played back then to know how things were. There is a reason a lot of the best magicians on Vallon Zek (like Caud) rerolled to other classes. They weren't this overpowered class that VZTZ made them out to be. | |||
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#57
09-24-2011, 11:17 PM
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Again, VZTZ was NOTHING like live. They changed the resist rates on that server drastically from what live was. Magicians were slightly above average pre-Kunark and went downhill in Kunark and Velious. In contrast, Hybrids continued getting stronger and were easily the top pvp classes in Velious. | |||
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