The real reason the population is declining is...

[Rushmore]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're just starting:
A: You have friends coming with you with similar play times -> Roll a classes that while be weaker soloing duo well.
B: You have *many* friends coming along -> have some discussion about your play times and if it lines up, roll a balanced group. If you're brave, have it be a balanced melee group.
C: You are coming by yourself and completely retarded-> roll a melee, complain about server "decline", "hard" xp and "pvp penalties".

This isn't a server yet for the clueless or casual/solo melee player.

I've read enough of these stupid theory threads. (Let's keep bumping them too)

What I see here is the result of the modern MMO "community (lol fucking right sure)" crying about classic Everquest. Completely expected.

When the market is flooded with cheap items and if/when your more dedicated friends are willing to power level you and protect you from pvp until max level, I'm sure you will enjoy it more.

Until then? We're getting what the top guilds on blue have always wanted, uncontested raid spawns.



The stupidest ideas typically come from the masses of WoW or wtfever players (who should be going to Star Wars by now?) who claim to know what's good for a classic pvp server, when it suits their interests. There's tons of them, I think it would be a 600 way tie for stupidest idea, because really, each of them has explored the depths of stupidity far enough I care not to venture.

/Harrison off

See you on the court.

sticky imo

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by inimegalg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure if serious? Red had a 25% xp bonus for over a week, pop didn't increase by much, if anything went down more... and for all that said it was the holiday's.. we were at 160 pop about an hr ago and its jan 3rd.

25% ain't enough reward. Sorry, bro. I'm not even sure experience gain itself is enough. I tried to explain that in a post in the past few days. EQ is like spaghetti. The changes you make have many implications.

Again, look at this:

The "risks" on this pvp server (everything else being equal):
1) You die in pvp and lose experience
2) You get killed by other players; not just NPCs
3) You're anon and others cannot see your level/class; to protect yourself
4) More often than not, you do not group with other guilds; again, to protect yourself

No, I mean look and READ and UNDERSTAND:

The "risks" on this pvp server (everything else being equal):
1) You die in pvp and lose experience
2) You get killed by other players; not just NPCs
3) You're anon and others cannot see your level/class; to protect yourself
4) More often than not, you do not group with other guilds; again, to protect yourself

People keep underestimating the amount of risk on this server and on pvp servers in general.

You keep digging your own grave. You're killing off PvP except when ti's applied to PvE servers. You see, there's a pivotal lesson. This: It's easier to add PvP to PvE servers than it's to have PvP servers.

If pvp were a country, it would be Iran and blocking the Suez Canal with warships.

[heartbrand]

Everytime I engage in PVP all I think about is, wow it's really going to suck grinding this EXP back later. Even with the 25% bonus exp was still too slow. This is coming from an embarrassed diaperquester who has spent way too much time on this server trying to get to 50 and is now finally a level away. God help me had I rolled a hybrid or a troll. I got literally 0% movement in 45 killing dark blue mobs solo. It took 2 mobs to get a tick.

[Humerox]

people keep throwing these low numbers around at whim.

the population went over 200 Jan 3, and has consistently done so. we're not at 600, but the server is a far cry from dead or dying.

go to Searyx's thread and post constructive ideas about increasing pop, or gtfo. we're tired of the doom and gloom.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now what about eq pvp truly involves skill?

I don't know man, why is it 2nd place guild has full plugs and casualties when we have none?

I hate to make this comment and turn this into an RNF post, but really. Come on.

I'll agree most of it is preparation and organization but there is MUCH to be said about execution and proper zoning (not just hopping back and forth on EQ zone lines... though that can be important too) mechanics.

What's a zoning mechanic Nirgon?

Well, it's your ability to manage the space around you in relation to the players, friend or foe, also around you. No spoilers here this time kids.

No skill. Lol right.

I won't deny EQ is a massive time investment, that certainly has a lot to do with it. Who would disagree with that? No one that has played this game in classic.

The gem pinata planes aren't out yet (as they do not fit the timeline...) to create a real gap. There is such a thing as a ceiling (and a real one here at that) and catching up.

[Humerox]

we're talking apples and oranges, Nirgon.

you're entirely correct. but the context of my post was addressing something completely different.

but u KNOW this.

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[Nirgon]

Yeah people who can't organize or have terrible motor skills posting troll threads as a weapon against the server.

[funhorroryes]

well, i have been a pvp god now for about 12 years now but unfortunately this server is just not working out for me. EXP is too slow, the average player is a douche (thats fine, i am too) and the average level just seems to keep going higher and higher.

This server wont see anymore new players in the next 3 months, literally 95% of the people who would come back to do EQ one last time have discovered the server due to really good advertising and word of mouth. everyone will eventually be high level, and this will punish authentic new players from leveling because they will have no one to level with. the only real melee classes will just be twinks of mages

everyone knows the game, there way through solb, guk and hate. just increase the exp rate, its unbelievably slow. you will save more players. There is more replay value at higher levels than p99 because of the ability to pvp, and i think the logic of when people get to 50 they will quit shouldnt really apply to this server as much as p99b.

[Dfn]

Originally Posted by funhorroryes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well, i have been a pvp god now for about 12 years now but unfortunately this server is just not working out for me. EXP is too slow, the average player is a douche (thats fine, i am too) and the average level just seems to keep going higher and higher.

This server wont see anymore new players in the next 3 months, literally 95% of the people who would come back to do EQ one last time have discovered the server due to really good advertising and word of mouth. everyone will eventually be high level, and this will punish authentic new players from leveling because they will have no one to level with. the only real melee classes will just be twinks of mages

everyone knows the game, there way through solb, guk and hate. just increase the exp rate, its unbelievably slow. you will save more players. There is more replay value at higher levels than p99 because of the ability to pvp, and i think the logic of when people get to 50 they will quit shouldnt really apply to this server as much as p99b.

While I agree with upping exp, it's unlikely to save newer players. Melee's, hybrids, etc will still suck to solo - but thats part of eq and something people should consider instead of making a melee then playing the woe is me im entitled to something card.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by funhorroryes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well, i have been a pvp god now for about 12 years now...

You played SZ and although I associated your name with god, it wasn't because I thought you were one.

Why u arguing all this ez-mode xp stuff? you got soft~