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Old 01-19-2012, 08:05 PM
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Drav, it's followed by posts of "unable to kill trak" or "partake in the poopsock." Ragefire isn't the issue here, it's just where you guys care about the most atm so it's getting the most attention. The same applies to vox, VS, inny, CT, etc. Unless you dump those worthless massive variances you're not fixing the problem. Three guilds came to an agreement about only ragefire and spoke with nobody else then decided to throw it up on the forums. Well done, now how about the rest? Also, the variances don't work. If you want proof take a look at just how many attempts other guilds have gotten in on naggy recently, or VS or just ask them: they won't do it because they don't feel they have to. If you truly wanted competition and to race to targets against other guilds than embrace something like a once-a-week pop with a variance that accounts for timezones but all pops at the same time. The guilds will still tier depending on what they can take and handle rather than how many of them don't have jobs. Currently you're competing against 2 other guilds because the majority of the population has decided you're retarded and you're pounding your chest about how great you are. You are. If these are the rules and will remain the rules then you can keep pounding your chest, nobody here is impressed.
And this is exactly like live. If the top end guild(s) wanted something they would shit all over the lower guilds to get what they wanted(Leapfrogging, training, KS'ing). All I'm saying is grow a sack and deal with it instead of spouting your communist "let's all be equal maannnnnnnnn" bullshit because it benefits you more. If you want something more than IB/TMO/VD, fucking prove it instead of board warrioring.

Also, I'm not pounding my chest saying I'm amazing, I'm just saying quit living in a delusional world.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:09 PM
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With all due respect to Barfight and President...

Skope, it's time to shut the fuck up.

I know you're angry and frustrated about the state of the server, but your posts aren't doing anything to progress your goals, and most certainly aren't progressing the goals and reputation of Divinity.

As to the matter at hand, I am disappointed that the effort the 5 currently socking clerics have made at starting an agreement has been largely tossed aside and buried under an avalanche of RnF material (certainly some Div members bear responsibility in this turn of events, for this, I apologize.)

I would be willing to moderate a discussion among the leadership of any guild that has a cleric ready for Ragefire and attempt to broker an arrangement with wider appeal. If there is not support for such a meeting, I will do what I must within the capability and availability of my guild members and the rules of the server to obtain a shot at Ragefire for Divinity.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:09 PM
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Stealin so cute when he's lashing out

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Old 01-19-2012, 08:16 PM
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i have a solution to everyones epic problems: roll a rogue

or a blunt, shrug
best thing ive read in this thread.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:27 PM
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So people who don't play and apply themselves want the same pixels as those of us who do?

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Old 01-19-2012, 08:35 PM
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:45 PM
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I respect Divinity/Taken/BDA as much as anyone on this server and I am certainly a huge fan of Ninik. That being said, if you can't see why these 5 clerics are being awarded first, you are blind. IB/TMO/VD has had clerics endlessly clicking away in shifts over anywhere from 1 hour to 24+ hours at a time. No one else has put in that type of effort and as far as I am concerned effort reaps reward.

As far as Skope goes, I am not trying to be a total asshole here but last time IB/TMO had to go to VP and let everyone else have EVERY other mob on the server. VD got Trak/VS/Gore/Talendor/CT/Naggyx2/Vox/Sev/Dracho. While BDA/Taken/Divinity got a Dracho/Inny/Fay combined. You can remove variance all you want but even when there wasn't a variance look at the results. You ask for a level playing field but when you got one on a FULL REPOP and an actual Dracho/Naggy spawn before the repop look at the results. If you do not think that the IB/TMO/VDs results are indicative of what would happen with ragefire that is laughable. The guilds that are prepared and built to raid will still win in the long run because even with static spawns eventually mobs will become somewhat staggered due to some guilds taking longer htan others to kill certain mobs.

Lastly, I am more than willing to help any cleric in any guild when the rotation provides their turn.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:03 PM
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The only way I see a rotation actually working and not alienating half of the server is having a lottery for everyone that is up to that point in the Cleric Epic Quest (Orb of Clear Water and Shimmering Pearl).

I think we all know the rules lawyering and sitting at spawns is not going to stop even with the OP's current aggrement/rotation.

1. Rogean pulls from the database every cleric that currently has the Shimmering Pearl and Orb of Clear Water.

2. A random number is assigned to each cleric with highest to lowest creating the order.

3. Nagafen is still FTE but Ragefire will go in order. There could be a certain time limit to kill him but it needs to be semi lenient for the casual clerics on the list in order to put a force together.

4. If Zordak is not killed/attempted in the alloted time it defaults to the next player on the list. This would account for people not playing anymore etc.

5. Any cleric after the original list is created will be required to post in the list thread a screenshot of their Shimmering Pearl and Orb of Clear Water in order to be added to the bottom.

Honestly this is the only fair way I see of doing it.

Who's to say TMO/IB/VD will actually be willing to give up their next cleric epic to a guild not listed? I think most of us have been on the server long enough to know this isn't how it works.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:21 PM
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I don't know if anyone's said it, but all the bad mouthing the GMs/guides/devs in this thread needs to stop.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:10 PM
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Are you a cleric that doesn't have a Nagafen-capable guild behind you? Are you resigned to the fact that you won't get your epic for a long while? WELL THINK AGAIN!

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