My dear sweet high prince Rogean, sir lord protector king czar lord cesar pal guy

[Beastro]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

interesting theory but i'm pretty sure that nobody loves eq classic pvp so much that they sought it out 13 years later, googled an emulator server, installed titanium, took all the time to patch and figure out how to play red99, and then were so shocked and appalled that pvp was happening that they ragequit

people know exactly what eq pvp entails (griefing) and that is why they love it

people quit because of 0 development and staff neglect

The community isn't innocent.

This same stupid finger pointing between staff and community took place in VZTZ and in the end it ran a good 50/50.

Simply because the server's been neglected by Rogean and co. doesn't absolve all you shits from creating a massively toxic environment for others to play in that don't fit into your mentality.

Griefing isn't pvp.

If you think it is, you're a hilarious joke and don't know what pvp is. You probably started pvping on VZTZ.

It's a big part of it. It's the primary creator of smacktalk which is really half the enjoyment of PvP.

It also creates rivalries and fosters hate which makes normally meaningless kills important in the ego battle. The only problem is some people take it too far and kill the golden goose instead of stretching things out.

I was a griefer on Rallos. I played a naked, lv6 Troll SK with a high lv bow that could one shot most Dark Elves of lower levels than me. I fucked up Nektulos almost every day but I made sure to not kill the same people too much unless they came looking for me because while I loved to enrage people, I also didn't want to be a cruel dick and ruin people's experience too much.

In the end I came to be looked on with grudging endearment by the newbies I killed who later went on to higher lvs and always laughed when they found me doing the same old thing a year later when they were in higher lv guilds.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, he said nothing of the sort.

Please, give up this retarded cause you spam in every thread. You are almost as bad as holo on yt/gooc, or steaks about exp rates.

In leveling up multiple characters and pvping on them all, never once was I worried about the xp loss from pvp. Its literally 1-2 dark blue kill per pvp death.

Also, didnt you say you quit? Wtf? Why spam this ridiculous crap and make the server look flaky for new guys?

He said griefing was the #1 cause for petitions. Can we start on this common basis, that griefing would be less of a problem if you didnt lose xp?

Youre not worried about xp loss from pvp because you dont pvp alot. Like the example i mentioned, i lost 2 yellows (not 3 though but still) from something like 8 pvp deaths and 2 pve deaths in 3 hours.

How long does it take to recoup 2 yellows at 50? Im not sure exactly, but its not exactly trivial. Difference between you and me, is that i want this sort of pvp, every night. so if i did that, i would have to spend something like 3 hours each night, after each night of pvp, grinding pve, to not be deleveled to 49.

I did quit, for the time being. I would consider playing again if I see the server head in a direction that makes me think that there could be an influx of new players that will stick around.

New guys dont need to be told on forums that its boring to get xp farmed by a couple of twinks when youre trying to roll a fresh toon with your 2 RL buddies, they can see for themselves.

Youre probably just thinking with Nihilum in mind, like "Oh no, well be in trouble if we cant pvp xploss death people that try to stop me from farming raid zones with overwhelming numbers"

Im thinking about whats best for the server, in the long run.

Again, this isnt a crack about Nihilum "zerging", somebody has to have to bigger numbers, thats not the point.

For the record, i have no problem with griefing, not alot anyway, its not something i go out of my way to do but dont really mind people doing it. The problem is, the excessive grief it causes to have that kind of xp loss land on top of the pve grind, on top of not having gear, on top of most likely never having the numbers to fight off people out to grief, that causes the server to de-populate.

Ive seen some crazy griefing in Eve, nothing to compare even city champ getting deleveled to 44, but EQ is not deep enough for people to endure this status quo for long. At least thats my take on it.

[Greegon]

If they remove XP loss on death IMO reduce pvp range and add item looting, must be a punishment for death.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Greegon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they remove XP loss on death IMO reduce pvp range and add item looting, must be a punishment for death.

item loot should have been there from day 1, people would just roll around naked/with no drop gear/with gear they can afford to lose and there would be an actual economy to the server.

This would mean that twinks have something to lose when they go mess with new guys, new guys dont get such a hit when trying to engage twinks, and motivation to move in large groups of noobs like piranhas to have a chance to loot a nice piece of gear.

I think that reverting it to what it was on Rallos, would be whats needed.

Item loot, coin loot, no xp loss on death, restarting low on health and no mana on death.

Maybe patch in some kind of halloween type event that lets noobs get their hands on some decent no drop once in a while

I doubt well ever going to see that though.

Like, dont fix whats already working, right

[Harrison]

Lower the range and you will have twice as many faggot-ass OOR healers. Terrible idea.

[purest]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Griefing isn't pvp.

If you think it is, you're a hilarious joke and don't know what pvp is

^ never pvp'd in eq in his life, besides getting a druid to level 8 on red99 beta during 100% xp, before getting griefed off the server by Cozmonaut (I was in his guild so i know)

[Harrison]

Never died once in beta to pvp, else there would be screenshots because I used my name and people would treasure such a trophy. (of which there are none)

Purist confirmed making up more lies, as usual, because he has nothing.

I pvp'd before EQemu and I continue to now. Don't be mad because you're hilariously terrible and guild with jokes like Cozmonaut and your PVP "career" existed solely in jokebox vztz.

[Silikten]

Originally Posted by Man_That_Guy_Ames_Is_Cool [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What we needed.

Haha, cool story. Make your own server then?

[purest]

i was in the same guild as harrison < grindcore > and he got his shit pushed in on the reg by a Gnome Wizard named Cozmonaut outside CB during the 2 whole days of his eq pvp career (getting to lvl 8 w/100%+ xp)

he cried for blackup regularly in guildchat

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by purest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i was in the same guild as harrison < grindcore > and he got his shit pushed in on the reg by a Gnome Wizard named Cozmonaut outside CB during the 2 whole days of his eq pvp career (getting to lvl 8 w/100%+ xp)

he cried for blackup regularly in guildchat

lol as soon as he saw me post that ive been banned on blue, he automatically went into his "youve been banned for cheating, shut up" routine.

Cept thats not what i was banned for.

I wouldnt take anything Harrison says seriously, probably a compulsive liar in RL too.

Not that i took anything he said seriously before, or that you need me telling you this