My proposal for Raiding guilds and GMs of P1999

[Alawen Everywhere]

I'm going to ride you like a donkey tomorrow.

[Wrei]

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Felt like fixing this post up a tad. A lot of it is actually funny imo haha. But its like your writing the history of the world for north korean kids. Definitely through kimmy whatshiscrazynut's eyes.

I honestly did not "embellish" as much as you think on the series of events. Perhaps some stuff needs clarification but they are all fairly accurate in general. This was all for harmless fun any how seeing how serious this thread was getting.

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, took offense to this. Its not that there wasn't enough of a skilled playerbase in trans -- although eq isnt really set up for this because its much easier now than it ever was, I'd take the top ten trans guys against anyone any day of the week. Im sure a lot of them would as well. It's NOT that they arent or werent skilled enough to play this game at anyones level. Or "your level" for that matter. Just the fact that teenagers grow up, and most of trans core has families and big time jobs and such.

Can't live in mom's basement forever and escape the deep, dark clutches of the shitfuck economy forever. Sometime people have to work harder to keep themselves afloat and RL can be more important that a dragon to some...

I never implied that the inner core of Trans was bad. I just said you guys had a looser recruitment policy. If you want to be specific comparing both guilds we had less weaker links going beyond your crew of 10 (both guilds at their prime). So it's not about your choice of 10 guys but rather your whole guild as a group. I'm not talking "playtime", but rather in game knowledge and applying it. Not sure what your bringing up the whole playtime argument for... how's that relevant to the skilled player base+recruitment thing. The live in mom / unemployed thing is just sarcasm honestly. From what I recall most of us have RL jobs (just as most trans members do). The only thing we're guilty of is putting a greater priority playing this game (even after 10+years) over average Joe.

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wenai came up with the rotation all by his merry self. Popped in and did it that night. You guys didn't get blindsided. You knew shit would fall. We camped it, and you guys said ohh fuck no you dont. "Sitting 14 hours actually active at a spawn is too much for us!" and You came in and threw a shitfest and decided if its not your way -- well fuckem. I can get you the quote from Otto saying that training was going to happen if you'd really like it.

So we're to believe that you guys getting beat to a boss had nothing to do with it? Wasn't Tibador a GM at the time (yes just like Xzerion), your telling me that NOBODY from Trans whined/petitioned/emailed/chatted on vent or irc to the GMs about getting your ass kicked? Wenai just randomly came in and randomly decided hey let's share the bosses? My memory is sketchy now but as I recall wasn't that whole rotation concocted by allizia and another gm i can't remember in your vent? My point is it's not really about who came up with the rotation (when I really think it was trans) but rather about the fact that you guys must have complained to the GM's for them to get involved to begin with.

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha funny. Cause thats how it actually was. hah

Yes at last we agree on something!!

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Div broke the rotation by taking a naggy spawn. Had absolutely nothing to do with GC. Dunno where you got that from.

You are correct on a technical level, but GC was used as an example of upcoming raiding guilds just like remedy. It was bad enough to share with 1 guild then Div popping = 3 way share... Once it was clear more guilds would be popping up (starting with GC) that's when the whole rotation was getting silly( Naggy once a month yay ).

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

14. IB once again emerges on top, how dare they those basterds!

Not sure what you were trying to refute here. Or were you agreeing! The pun was rather one of my weaker jokes, you'll have to forgive me it was 5am.

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just Supreme. Don't lump everyone with what he said...

I don't feel like digging up pages of quotes but seriously that whole sentence is true (my sentence). There was plenty of smack talk comparing dick size between both guilds. Once it was established which was the more dominant guild, the focus then shifted towards how being the top guild here is like winning the special olympics (and not just Supreme) into trying to get server sympathy by saying how we're the greedy basterds (for not sharing with every random joe on the server).

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hah. Just wanted to give a shout out to Myth and Hasbinbad!

There were more then a few trolls from both guilds but I didn't name names! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The whole life thing? trans members do it everyday. sucks you had to take a few months out of yours to do something for the world.

I know sarcasm is the lowest form of comedy but seriously did you really believe I was a slob living in my mom's basement? Sorry to disappoint, but I think we all got jobs and responsibilities for the most part (yes even myself what a shocker). You make it sound like Trans was the only guild that had members who had shit to do in RL but still somehow managed to raid.... That's funny.

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not genuine mobilization when the spawn was broken. everything was spawning at the exact same time after the variance opened, it was really dumb. IB knew all about it, at least prolly 1/3 of the way through it? so they mobilized for a little bit, but not forever.

It sucks when you don't know the exact time that maestro is going to spawn.

Umm.. kinda confused by that. To me mobilizing goes something like this:

1. Tracker tracks! (Best part of playing EQ!) I'm kidding
2. Big red Boss on track zomg! Send out message
3. Raid force logs on goes to X zone trying to beat other competing guild.
4. Gank boss.

So how is that not genuine mobilization? Even if early variance was bugged and the bosses popped more or less at the same time (I can't even remember). Do you think we all slept through? No I assure you, our trackers were busy then just as they are now. You would know when Maestro died if you had a rotation of trackers.. but then everyone of you lead such busy lives that you possibly couldn't do that.

Setting up 1 tracker rotation = ZOMG THIS IS A GAME DUDE we got shit to do in RL!!.

Setting up a whole raid force sitting in Nag's room waiting for the dragon to pop for 14+ hours = Acceptable because we get a guaranteed dragon!!

At least be consistent, if your too busy to raid how the fuck do you have a whole raid force camping for that long? You guys showed the way for future generation on how to go full retard right then and there.

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh please. stfu. Its about half and half with the guild that goes after vox getting less targets per week. Give me a break, but good try to put everyone down but yourself.

Why the anger? Geez I thought we were friends... I said for the most part, we do have less though (even in our zerg form).

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, this Idea Nizzar attempted to bring up was just a good idea for the good of the server. Why was it shot down???

Because its not in the best interests of IB. The ENTIRE reason it was shot down was that. I dont see Div/Remedy whining about this proposal in here. Just a lot of you shitting up a perfectly good thread. It's like its a nice day, and we started to go golfing, but then this big storm cloud with IB shaped lightning bolts starts raining on everything.

It would have nothing to do with DA having a massive guild roster right? Are you saying that Nizzarr would have made that post if DA was dominating the content through camping? Seriously? Can DA keep up camping indefinitely? I doubt it, and if you can't then what do you do? You first play the victim card (anyone who points out that your guild is the problem by camping = trolling), then you go on to get some sympathy votes from Div/Rem by telling them you are out there to look out for their interest (when in reality DA admitted they will keep on camping because it suits DA).

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We need to just give Dumesh's idea a constructive place to grow and change and adapt... Like its own thread!!! Yeah! Guys, lets do it!

Just dont shit it up this time around. kthxbai

Finally something we totally agree on, and yes I like the potential of that thread.

[bullet]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to ride you like a donkey tomorrow.

Your wife rode you pretty hard when she dumped your pathetic ass.

Sad loser.

[spoolie]

lol bullet...relentless

[tsonka]

Sorry, took offense to this. Its not that there wasn't enough of a skilled playerbase in trans -- although eq isnt really set up for this because its much easier now than it ever was, I'd take the top ten trans guys against anyone any day of the week. Im sure a lot of them would as well. It's NOT that they arent or werent skilled enough to play this game at anyones level. Or "your level" for that matter. Just the fact that teenagers grow up, and most of trans core has families and big time jobs and such

Thanks Tal


When I read Wrei's post I was a bit irked. We get along with IB rather well now, in fact I have alot of respect for that guild. Making comments, no matter how long ago they are refering to, still leaves a "what the fuck" feeling with you

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by spoolie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol bullet...relentless

Your guildies have a lot of class, spoolie.

[spoolie]

im neutral man take that up with them. I don't hate on anyone.. i got gnome love for all

[spoolie]

and ps i dont even know who bullet is on here.

[Aadill]

It's a shame that this thread had some reasonable ideas in it that were being discussed but were brought down by a few members of the community. It's to be expected as the number of people who have an interest and access to the discussion is 100% of the population affected.

Perhaps we can again attempt this at the appropriate time where a thread about guilds will not end up in the RnF section, as they always do.

[spoolie]

ya it always a couple people from both sides just argueing and taking low blow shots at each other that ruins any chance of an attempt to fix anything.