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			 In classic, it was pretty common knowledge (as far as I recall) that he popped about 1 in 12 times (ghoul ph at bottom of stairs?).  It sounds like it's more like 1 in 50 or more atm.  (Plat) ring dropped 25-50% or so? 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			 From doing it a few times myself and also hanging out with Josh while he camped it I have a theory on the spawn.  It seems to me that this iteration is much more likely to spawn if the ph is allowed to naturally de-pop rather than killing him right away.  All three times that I have seen Gynok on the server it was from zoning in and him already standing there with 0 people in zone.   
		
		
		
		
		
		
		Just my two copper. P.S. On live it was completely common to camp him for 20+ hours before getting the ring.  | ||
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			 Are you sure that the PH despawns at all? I tried leaving him up for about 10 minutes and he didn't. Camped him for 16 straight hours yesterday and didn't get a spawn. When you consider that the gold ring is also pretty hard to get, this quest is just not worth the reward. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		Of course I DID get a ton of work done in that 16 hours cause there isn't much else to do, so it's not all bad.  | ||
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			 Gynok trip report: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		28 total hours, two installments. 16 hours followed by 12 hours, got it on the 12 hour run.  | ||
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			 Taking your camp now Sabbra, thanks :P 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			 This is working as intended.  Gynok was always a SOB to camp. 
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			 So I have done this quest several times on live, but not in many years like most of us who play here. I do remember the extremely long Gynok camps though, so I told myself I wouldn't do it here. But today, seeing as how I couldn't find a group, I thought I might as well camp Gynok for a little and maybe I'll get lucky. Awesome thing is I did. After two hours he spawned and dropped the plat and gold ring. Odd thing I did notice is that no PHs spawned at all. Just 2 hours of sitting there and eventually he spawned.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		The trouble I am having is with Vin Moltor. I never remember having to actually camp him. Maybe kill PHs once and he would spawn. I told myself that maybe it was because people more often killed the PHs and that's why he was usually up. So I decided to sit it out. Well it has been 4 hours and I am still sitting it out. I have been killing all wandering mobs, in case of being PHs. The worst thing of all is close to 2 hours he did spawn, but he didn't drop the container. As far as I knew it was a 100% drop. Never happened to me before, nor have I heard of it happening before. I now people on the server have the paw, so I'm just wondering what the deal is with Vin. Is this a normal camp or is something messed up? A camp this long and longer was expected with Gynok but not with Vin.  | ||
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			 It's weird that there weren't any PH's with gynok... I did have to camp vin but only for maybe an hour. Spawned twice, dropped nothing the first time and dropped the container the second time. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			 Zoned into QSewers last night and saw Vin on track.  Had my Rat Ear pie and kalish in hand and as I'm getting near him, I see "you have lost your target".  I come around the corner to see Gandolf (or something like that) standing over his corpse.  I shake my fists furriously at him as he zones out and then go off and do something else. 
		
		
		
		
		
			This morning I log on with about 20 minutes to spare so I check again, and sure enough Vin is there. I hand him the pie and booze and he hands me the paw case. We have a few laughs and I'm on my way with a new Paw. Guess my mele-druid days are done until the epic. 
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			 Thought about giving him the pie and beer to get the paw container, but I logged on today and he was up. Seeing as how I camped him for 5 hours and I had no pie and beer, I killed him. Made me feel great, even better that he dropped the container. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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