Sirken's proposal

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Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything I'm seeing from the hardcore camp entails "competition." The casuals do not want competition, especially at the level historically defined by TMO. As a casual, I feel like every raid proposal from hardcores is attempting to justify their ideal of competition by forcing it on the casuals. I feel suppression of the casuals is what hardcores want, it provides the justification for the inordinate amount of time spent in the game. Deru is right, it is work, but its not "Classic" work, it was artificially created by Project1999-specific mechanics.

To me, a casual is someone who doesn't have the time or motivation to be so heavily committed to a game. To most of the people on this server, "casual" seems to be anyone not in a top raiding guild. I think the use of the words casual and hardcore are ridiculous at this point.

"Casuals" do not want competition? No, players who do not want competition, do not want competition. We have a vast majority of "casuals" in tier 1 guilds. That is, players with families and lives and responsibilities. They choose to spend their EQ time tracking or raiding rather than leveling alts, farming, or doing whatever the people that YOU call "casuals" do.

I play this game A LOT. But I've never had more than 30k in the bank. You should ask some of your "casuals" how much plat they have. The ones who can afford fungi tunics, hiero cloaks and epic MQs. I see TONS of people who are in "casual" guilds that are completely decked out in best in slot purchased gear. I have one level 60 and one alt that is 57. I bet a lot of the "casuals" in your guild have much more than that.

Nothing about being "casual" stops you from raiding. Certainly not the ability to devote time to a game. The decision to spend your EQ time elsewhere is what stops you from raiding. This means you value one aspect of the game over a different one. If you want a rotation on raids, then why shouldn't I ask for an official rotation in crypt camp or chardok aoe or whatever it is that you spend your EQ time doing? It makes just about as much sense.