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[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK seiously last postd fuck this... but:

It takes roughly 14, 18, 20 years to raise a human being. Prior to that, we are physically, emotionally (debatable), and intellectually weak. From an evolutionary standpoint, having some form of marriage, monogamy, polygamy, etc... makes sense because an infant would need protecting that a mother couldn't give alone. Once you start having units like that, it stands to reason that we'd expand our "group" to include more than just our parents and children. We then include grandchildren, cousins, nephews, etc... you see where I'm going with this.

At a certain point, you have a society, and since we are social, and since we have different talents, we must work together to maximize our rate of survival. Very simplistic, but I definitely believe morality actually makes perfect sense evolutionarily speaking. If humans ONLY fight one another, and never work together, we'd all be fucked.

I disagree. That theory posits that organization among animals leads to morality.
If we have groups of animals then we should see the same morality as humans have in the animal kingdom.

For instance a lion tribe is dependent upon a patriarchal system of protection from rival tribes and a matriarchal system to provide food.
However no high morality is seen in a lion tribe, the fathers of cubs often kill their own progeny if the perceive a competitive threat.
And the food providing mothers do not make sure that the weakest cub gets the food first.
They have no high moral function that guides their lives as humans do.

For that matter if evolution of morals was contingent upon group protection then large flocks of birds or schools of fish should be the highest of moral agents as they have had much more time in the evolutionary scale than humans to work out their moral evolution based upon their large groups of flocks and schools.

Morality is a strictly human product. If a horse kicks in the head and kills his owner who has raised him from a foal, feeding him, training him, making sure he is in good health, that horse feels no remorse for the death of his owner. He does not feel guilt over it. He has no morality. Yet horses travel in large groups and evolved in the same environment as humans.

So what made humans capable of morality? It would have to be our high intelligence.

So how does a mind evolve to the point of having morality and intelligence? After all a mind is not biological it cannot evolve and grow on a Darwinian biological model.