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Did I say it ruined anything ? I talked about the current way things happen now and the cause of it. Remember Sirken had to make that post because Taken attempted to gate on a Nagafen characters they had bound there.
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3 months of having mages dominate tracking did not ruin the raid scene, not even close, the raid scene was already reaching boiling points in several areas ( mainly FFA) BEFORE Sirken made that post.....its why...'gasp'....he even instituted a change
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Again. Where did I use the word ruined ? I'm confused. You asked my opinion of what Class C wants. I pointed to a instance that made FFA what it is and then explained my stance about racing. I never said it ruined anything.
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Its like you guys dont even remember javspam-autofire tagging
Oh right that was only Taken doing that as well.
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You might want to bury this part of the topic. Just will cause more arguing. There was only one suspension for autofire after all.
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I guess Taken is pretty much responsible for the raid changes too since our leader was a part of those discussions, might as well give us credit for that since we already get credit for the other stuff we didnt create.
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Uhm, Yes Taken created the cothing to spawns on the FFA cycle. Stop trying to hide that fact behind rhetoric. No one is saying you ruined anything or blame you for anything bad. It's just what got the FFA spawns to what they currently are.
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Lazie I totally understand your point about creating a barrier of entry for new raid guilds (or current ones) that basically requires them to make a guild mage account to participate in FFA. I get that. Makes sense that theres a fundamental problem with that because its dumb to require ANYTHING that specific to join in when everyone should have a pretty equal shot at getting the encounter cept for gear/experience/skill.
The racing tho, is not the perfect solution, its another band aid solution albeit one that would provide us with something different for a couple months.
So if TMO's goal is to give us something different for now with no big changes to the overall feel than thats fine and all, but we are trying to figure out what can be done to the overall fundamental feel within the confines of R/C/FFA system.
The only thing I like about racing is anyone can do it.
There are many things I dislike about racing, so many I am not going to list them again.
If we could standard issue mages with COH to any guild that wanted to try FFA, it would be as close to level playing field and easy to police as we can get.
Problem is it's ridiculous to have that much power to 1 class in the raid game's success or fail.
So, besides racing and besides mages and besides repops are FFA R/C
what other ideas we got? there are smart people out there...
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Again. Racing is what Sirken also specified in your post as to what the GM's want to see. You linked it, reread it. Class C took this literally and it is what we do. It's fun and easy to police. You guys seem to want to continue to create a barrier of entry for guilds on FFA spawns based on whether a person wants to CotH duck or not.
We can play the game that way as it is as well on FFA spawns and not worry about changes. You seem to be over thinking the problem. It doesn't need some grand change to rework everything that it is. It just needs to be tweaked to allow more approachability. The things you are arguing for just doesn't add to a more competitive raid scene that more of the server can take part in. Not many guilds outside of the ones currently getting kills on repops are going to benefit from an all FFA repop situation.
10-28-2014, 04:09 PM
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