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Old 05-05-2015, 11:34 AM
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If you say so. There are many disenfranchised groups who would say otherwise. Freedom from oppressive groups, whether they be militants or bureaucrats, isn't something that's won and done.
Other than the police, can you please name for me one militant group on our shores that is actively suppressing the local population? I agree that disenfranchised groups exist, and that we need to update certain laws so that they no longer unequally target those living in poverty, but that's unrelated to the situation that has occurred here.

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To say we don't need to be vigilant about protecting everyone's rights, even the rights of the hatemongers, is as ignorant as the hatemonger's bigoted messages. Just as it's their right voice their idiotic opinions, it's your right to counter their idiotic opinions with rational argument, or just ignore them.
Simply voicing ones opinion is a far cry from holding a hate-filled revenge rally at an educational facility because a Muslim outreach program took place there a few months prior. Pamela Geller offered an award based on hatred, not free speech. It is her right, but we do not need more people like her exercising that right with the aim to achieve the same results. We do not need copy cats.

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You can't be selective about whose rights you protect.
Who is protecting the rights of the civilians in this scenario? Innocent bystanders were not injured in the Garland incident, but if we allow the tension to scale up, it is inevitable that casualties will occur.

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That's the first step away from freedom.
Violence and hatred are not synonymous with freedom. If you continue to take divisive action against your neighbor, one of you will never be free. Pamela Geller is advocating war based on the controversy that her campaign against Islam has started. If we go to war against our neighbors on her behalf, our neighbors will not be free. Freedom is for everybody. Not just white Christians.
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