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					Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception
					[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]Were you leaving the goo and the golem out too? They spawn in the same spots and have the exact same level and stats as the wurm | 
	
 I'm doing north right now for exp so I have really recent experience dealing with all of its inhabitants.
Wurm is quite a bit weaker than the other named in this wing.  Pretty sure he's lower level as well, I got nowhere near as many stun resists on him as on the named when I started doing north at level 54.  I added him back though.  He definitely has less HP's than the named too.
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		| Besides, you acknowledged earlier in the thread that a large part of the difficulty in soloing any given mob is getting to (and possibly spawning) and pulling it, not just killing the mob by itself in a vaccuum. HS north is no picnic to solo unless you're already an accomplished soloer and/or familiar with the place. And even then, there's miles of difference between handling one of the rooms where the key for the boss room spawns as a chanter or a necro compared to as a shaman or druid or something. IIRC some of the best original SAC competitors didn't do north until they were 60, and I don't remember ever seen anyone outside of enchanter, necro, or shaman soloing it at all. | 
	
 I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make there.
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		| Further, you insisted on using a zone-by-zone system for this. Why in the world would you leave a named, loot-dropping NPC off of the list when your whole idea for the ranking was to show what all a person has done in a specific zone? | 
	
 As I said, I left him out because he's barely different from regular trash mobs in terms of difficulty.  However, I've added him back in due to popular demand (population = you).  Also, I suppose, the more the merrier.
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		| Are you sure about tier 6 for HS? | 
	
 Absolutely not - this is a request for comments.  Matter of fact I have never soloed a single mob in HS East myself, so everyone's wisdom is more than welcome.
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		| Undertaker Lord is 56, so no normal mezzes, no stuns, tougher resists, and he's got a HT (and SK spells? I can't recall). Compared to Mortiferous Protector who is only 55, so he can be mezzed, stunned, has generally lower resists, and doesn't HT (or cast). Did they change DS with Velious? I almost want to say she should be on the same tier as Undertaker Lord. I mean, she hits harder and casts necro spells and has a big lifetap proc (as of the last I knew)... but she is more easily pulled and is only level 55 so she can be stunned. | 
	
 
As I said, not having done HS East myself other than back on live with a group - we're speaking 2001 so it's 16 years ago and memories are blurry at best - I'm gonna have to rely on everyone's comments.
What would you say?  Put DS, MP and UL all in the same tier?  or DS + MP in a tier and UL in the tier above?
I'm pretty sure south mobs tiers can also use some adjustments.