Question for the transgender people on this forum

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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality

Then again, apparently evidence of a biological basis actually causes bigots to be more bigoted, not less, so maybe I shouldn't have bothered with the above: https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/20...sis-for-gender

This was definitely an interesting read, however it seems there is a lack in studies. They do mention a bunch of different studies but also go over the small sample sizes in some of these as well as the lack of consensus in the results among other researchers. Although it's also Wikipedia, so gotta definitely do a lot more looking into than one web search.

Definitely an interesting hypothesis and still need more scientific data to be proven. However, this still aims at a difference in brain chemistry, bringing people closer to gender dysphoria, a mental disorder. I'll need to do more research overall but this was a interesting read thus far and has certainly sparked more questions for me, so thanks for that loramin.

Also, just a side note, evidence doesn't prove it. There is still a lot more work to be done on the subject, obviously. So try not to call people bigots when they don't agree with you because that is the LITERAL DEFINITION of bigotry.

Originally Posted by hyejin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah the pitch falls apart with young'ns. I haven't figured out an apologia for it yet so I'm leaning toward "it's immoral", too. The practice hurts our brand & should be discouraged. On the other hand, ideal results do mean starting younger.

perhaps a secondary arbitrary age of consent for this. between 14 and 16? I can say I have observed firsthand that I was ready by this time. And I can't see 8 year olds on hormones ever passing the gut check.

As for adjusting your cartoon arbitrary assertion that a particular social role must correlate with something chemically predetermined, a large stick will do better than emotional tugging. Regardless of any principled debate what you just said will be rendered equivalent to use of "the n word" in short order. That'll handle everything but your clueless interior monologue. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glad we at least agree on the children part. That is primarily my main issue with it all. An adult can do whatever they want imo. Although I still can't imagine that 40yro man that is now "living as a 6yro girl" but to each their own.

People can be upset with my "clueless interior monologue" all they want, but unfortunately feelings don't constitute facts. I can feel like a Bear or a Dolphin all I want but that doesn't make me one. O Snap, maybe I'm an Otherkin! Unfortunately for some, the same thing goes for folks feeling like a different sex, race or what have you at least until proven differently.

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those are separate issues. An adult deciding for himself is one thing, parents turning their child into a science project is quite another. Not really the same discussion

Your right, an adult deciding for themselves is one thing, but when is someone an adult? When you become legal age? Even though your brain may not be fully developed yet? https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...ryId=141164708

We still have a lot of questions in these area's and I'm certainly no expert but folks need to take it down a notch from the name calling BS. This isn't RnF last I checked..

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PS: read this thread and tell me Katrik has a mental illness and mickmoranis doesn't. You cant

Many people have a mental illness these days. Trying to pick and choose who from posts on the interwebz is just not worth the time.