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Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're pushing it too hard and running conflicts with those leg days. Your body is struggling to maintain equilibrium.

I would train for cardio endurance. Unless you need sprints. You could easily benefit from an easier pace.

Your legs are huge so they will get tired easily. Is a 300lb leg press sufficient for what you gotta get through?

How much rest are u getting between when you push yourself? Test yourself? It takes a few days, even a week for muscles hit max readiness.

That is pretty crazy to hold up for 5 miles tho. Impressive!

I would settle into an 10 min pace slow as snails for anything over 3 tho. Unless I was running for my life.

Yes normally people who are serious about lifting aren’t also trying to distance run. However, within the past few months I watched a podcast with a bodybuilder (not an IFBB pro mass monster but definitely beyond an amateur) who mentioned he regularly runs a decent distance, like 5-6 miles, at something like an 8min/mile pace. He may have been lying for clout, but it presented it to me as humanly possible. What one man can do, another can do

I don’t run after leg day, I swim laps 3x a week after each of those days instead for cardio (then lift). I am approaching my mid-life crisis at 40 (38 now), and rather than buy an expensive car, go on a sex tourism vacation to Thailand, or do lots of drugs like some men handle their mid-life crisis, my plan was to be in the best shape of my life by 40 (using zyzz physique as my target goal https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yDqk6KJVyP8, he was on multiple anabolics so it’s not really possible for me, but that’s the target. And unlike popular belief he had a known heart defect that killed him, not his drug use, although that didn’t help. His friends and brother that used just as much drugs are all still alive and well)

But since my best ever run (and thus part of the target of best shape ever) was being 170lbs who could do 7.3min/mile for 13 miles, doing that now at 215lbs is harder to the point of impossible, but I am still making improvements towards it. 10 min/mi wouldn’t be a workout for me. I mean it would, but it wouldn’t push my lungs or heart almost at all and thus I wouldn’t get a lot of the health benefits, I have to push myself