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Old 08-18-2011, 05:29 AM
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I'm sorry you guys lost Nagafen, but again get more competitive. Learn the tricks of that raid encounter and don't act like attacking the giants prior to bridge gives you some claim on the end mob. This isn't WoW, it's not a dungeon crawl to a boss in an instance. FTE is the rule and there are many, many, creative ways this gets done at the top.
was insulting to me because I wasn't claiming anything of the sort. And when was the last time this guild did this thing to TR to deserve the act? What we are saying is we aren't asking for you to surrender mobs. But in a position like this where we clearly got 'there' first, pulled all the giants to include Rokyl and you have 2 people there just let us have our shot. It isn't like we wiped, or sat there for 45 minutes bringing more people. We were there, you were not. Never have we leapfrogged or tried to gank another guilds' raid target yet apparently it is acceptable and defensible behavior to do this here? You want a race, a competition, you claim to be the best at mobilizing but when someone else actually gets the position first it means nothing because leapfrogging or attempting to leapfrog is a strategy? What I am saying is look, we got 'here' first wherever 'here' may be. If we were at the bridge, and TR ran by us that wouldn't be leapfrogging, the strategy would be how to engage and kill Naggy first and let the other guy pull certain fire giants. But there has to be a point where the other guild has position, otherwise it comes down to the same petty nonsense you wouldn't tolerate in your kids. Parents tell their kids to share or no one gets it, to take turns or wait their turn, adults wait in line or schedule appointments but here it is anarchy? How by any stretch of the imagination is leapfrogging in this case acceptable behavior? Because someone said 'it is ok to leapfrog?' It may make it not bannable behavior, but it doesn't make it ok. If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. And how do we determine socially acceptable behavior? Doesn't the society determine it? Well your society is speaking up, maybe you should listen. Forget the past and the nonsense that occurred, I am sure many of you thought it was bullshit but just accepted it because you had to. Here is the chance to not have to, and instead you refuse to help change things. Continuing to be part of the solution and not the problem.
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