New Druid Advice from the experts

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The data is the self reported chart on the ring page. I feel it is more accurate than what you think it might be.

There's 2 mobs dropping SCHW in the same camp and it is the common drop from at least 1 of them and not even the main reason people do that camp, they rot all the time. Also it is a 22% haste item which is kind of unimpressive on a top heavy server. I gave a pair to all my alts and I sold a dozen of them when I did 56-58 there.

It is on a 32mins timer, a good chanter can kill all 4 named ph in like 5-10 mins and afk 20 mins. Goblin you have to kill 120 mobs per hour and you can't go take a piss without risking having to start over. I'm not sure why you're drawing any sort of parallels with both camp, I'd pick frenzy any day over gobby ring.

And it is more of a 40+ camp if you want to have any sort of efficiency doing it but it is possible much lower.

Price data tends to be more accurate, because the entire playerbase interacts with the market. If people can make a quick 6k solo, they will. People will undercut prices to get a quick sale too, which is one way prices go down. If you don't see undercutting, that is usually due to a lack of supply. Nobody needs to undercut with low supply, because you don't have a bunch of Goblin Rings being auctioned at the same time.

The problem with wiki data is it is self reported by the small faction of the playerbase that edits the wiki. The data is probably skewed towards people who get rings, because you can brag about it on the wiki. There isn't much incentive to post if you never got a ring.

Using data created by the entire playerbase is probably more reliable than a small fraction of the playerbase self reporting with a potential skew.

SCHW is a good example of price drop due to supply because even top heavy servers need the cheaper haste items. When you have 10 alts, you don't usually spend 15k on a seahorse belt for each of them. You buy SCHWs for some of them. The point is that FBSS costs more, but it is generally inferior to SCHW. Why does FBSS cost more? Because SCHW is so common it rots. Nobody is going to pay FBSS prices for an item that rots. So you have a scenario where a generally inferior item that does the same thing (FBSS) costs more because of lower supply compared to the superior alternative (SCHW).

Now if you still think SCHW is a bad example, just look at Fungi Tunic. That is probably the most popular and sought after item in P99. It's usuable by 10 classes, and everyone wants multiple copies.

If Fungi Tunic dropped by 20-25k over 9 years, why did the Goblin Ring price barely move? Goblin Ring is soloable by a level 20, it has a fast respawn, and it sells for 6k. Every low level caster would be camping the Goblin Ring and getting multiple copies if it wasn't that rare. The Goblin Ring price would go down due to supply like most items on P99. That is the trend, prices go down on most items as the server ages due to a high supply and low demand. If the price remains the same for years, that is usually due to low supply keeping the prices up.