NPC Spawn Issue: A Kromzek Captain/warrior should be on CoV faction

[Baugi]

A Kromzek Captain and A Kromzek warrior from Leuz's Task should assist/be assisted by CoV mobs, but give no faction hit (likely KoS to everyone?).

They were changed in late Velious to curtail faction war strategies. -

Originally Posted by https://web.archive.org/web/20011225052139/http://pub35.ezboard.com/fthesafehousefrm13.showMessage?topicID=3203.topic

(11/2/01 10:35:11 am)

Dragons assisting Kromzek Captain in scout quest Does this seem retarted to anyone else?
Just got killed trying to do capt, twice. Pulled to the beach near the rock like we have many times. Nothing in sight, fight going along nicely. Von warps right on our head out of nowhere and fluxes us all nicely raping us. Fairly annoyed at this we have a warrior kite the capt around for a bit while we get ressed and buffed. He runs near us and we tag off him and he runs off to zone the adds to DN. He had 2 dogs and a wurm on him I believe. Were fighting capt again, fight going along fine and wham... out of nowhere Glati warps on our heads and kills our clerics, captain poofs and dragons go on their marry way.
Lovely...

Now... this faction is for dragon alligned people. Quest gives you a positive +CoV hit when compelting it. You kill a bad giant which is on giant faction. So... why in the hell would dragons attack YOU when you're doing their quest? If anything, they should assist and attack the giants.
Now, I understand. Adds challenge or whatever. But its not very challenging when random screwed up pathing causes dragons to warp right on top of you. Not only am I annoyed at screwy pathing but made me wonder why the hell dragons would assist captain in the first place. Done it before when there was a dragon pathing nearby, know how to harmony to avoid agro.

Bleh, this capt attempt sucked bigtime :/

Originally Posted by https://web.archive.org/web/20011225052139/http://pub35.ezboard.com/fthesafehousefrm13.showMessage?topicID=3203.topic

Re: Dragons assisting Kromzek Captain in scout quest The giants for Scout do not give faction anymore when killed and dragons will help them out when pulled. I used to be on giant faction and was top aligned with giants, they still conned ready to attack. I did the quest a short while ago with max ally to CoV now, and dragons assist him.

Go figure... Verant's way of fixing things is to make a Dragon help a Giant...

Alternative source -

Originally Posted by https://web.archive.org/web/20020208155431/http://pub42.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm6.showMessageRange?topicID=609.topic&s tart=21&stop=40

(11/20/01 7:37:02 pm)

Re: Pulling boss type mobs to zone - Valid tactic or ??

Quote: "how do you do Sontalak...and Klandicar??"



I'm fairly sure the Charissa giants have been friendly with their dragon neighbors for the last few patches.

Originally Posted by https://web.archive.org/web/20020208155431/http://pub42.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm6.showMessageRange?topicID=609.topic&s tart=21&stop=40

Actually,

Palimax is correct about Scout Charissa's Giant Friends...they assist dragons, not hunt them for you. (And I know this from helping with the Benevelence Quests.)

Tangentially, another post in that thread claims that "big corpses" aren't supposed to poof when NPC killed -

Originally Posted by https://web.archive.org/web/20020208155431/http://pub42.ezboard.com/fayonaerofrm6.showMessageRange?topicID=609.topic&s tart=21&stop=40

I'm sure there is. I watched my "zek friends" kill Sontalak before the Charissa patch with a single group to give aid to the giants. They had already been farming Wuoshi in similar fashion since they day people learned big corpses didn't poof on MOB kills. Heck, I even rammed a few D0rfs into Abbyot to test it out. It took a Shaman and a feigner to kill Abbyot in reverse fashion... [But I'm max-XP, +D0rf, and already have a Circlet of Falinkind so it ceased to be interesting pretty quickly.]

Is this a known thing? It would certainly explain a lot of the the seemingly badly designed encounters in the Coldain Ring quests. For example, I can't find any in-era warnings about Boridain Glacierbane getting the killing blow on the Rabid Tundra Kodiak.