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Default Feb2000 - Shaman Spears

A number of Shaman-exclusive spears were added in Feb2000.

Prior to Dec1999

- https://web.archive.org/web/19991128...ML/000161.html
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It only took all day but I got 2 special shaman weapons!
Xorbb
posted 09-19-1999 22:24

I was workin on my faction by killing bandits and while I was there I got 2 Bronze Main Gauches! I was soo excited! They have a whoping 3/22 damage/delay! I even had to put away my Black Enamelled Mace just to try it out for a while. Now all I need is a parrying dagger and I can tell people I'm a Troll Rogue! Maybe that will lower my SOW requests. I wish we could do the monk round kick move. Now that would really confuse people! What was that item that had unlimited charges of illusion skeleton? How about a dual dagger wielding skeleton that can do round kicks and cast SOW?

Seriously though... What if they add more shaman piercing weapons in the expansion? Maybe we should get our piercing up just in case...
- https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/S66ORJYpK0wJ
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Adar
Nov 20, 1999, 8:00:00 AM

Some Verant guy in beta wanted shamans to use spears, and now, here you are
with a piercing skill <G>

There are a couple of 'eh' spears out there, mostly for shamans wanting a
barbarian rogue look so people stop bugging them for SoW. Other than that,
the only *good* shaman piercer in the game ATM is the Gloomwater Harpoon (9
31, +4 STR, +25 HP) from Kedge. I've no idea how much it goes for, but given
the stats, it ought to be in the 500-1000 plat range.
- https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/agec4tluKDoJ
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Sam Schlansky
Dec 5, 1999, 8:00:00 AM

I've been maxing out piercing for awhile now. The *only* cheap weapon available
to train with is a bronze main gauche-- 3 damage 24 delay.

Our choices for piercing weapons are extremely limited... there's a bone spear
off a rare in lavastorm (shitty weapon, 6/29 magic), the gloomwater harpoon
(rare drop off estrella in kedge, very high lvl weapon, 9/31, magic, +4 str,
+25 hp), and the riptide spear (shitty weapon, 6/33 magic, sv cold+2, sv magic-
5, 5 charges of enduring breath). That's about it.


I'm actually training piercing in the hopes that eventually a kickass
piercing shaman-only weapon will be introduced, just to piss most people off.
But me, with my maxed skill, will use it with ease.

Piercing is not a viable skill to use in the longterm unless you've got a
gloomwater harpoon. MOST piercing weapons in the game are not shaman-usable and
the few that are generally suck compared to an EB mace, gatorsmash maul, or
tainted battleworn morningstar.

I'd be happy if we could use the runed bone fork, personally. I want something
besides a shitty thex mallet for my ranged slot!
Dec1999 Patch

- https://web.archive.org/web/20240919.../19991208.html
Quote:
DECEMBER 8, 1999

* A number of spears are now available to the Shaman class.
- https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/uC6xMFc2-U4J
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Sam Schlansky
Dec 9, 1999, 8:00:00 AM

Here's my understanding of the "shamen with piercing weapons" issue.

One guy at Verant always wanted to see his shaman with a spear, which
seems reasonable since druids can use scimitars. It all balances out-
- druids get 1H-slash, but only scimitars, and shamen get piercing,
but only spears.

So, shamen were given the skill and it was made trainable. Somewhere
along the line, however, that was missed-- and so most spears were
NOT made usable by shamen.

I brought this up with brian hook a few days ago and he said that he
had been working on getting shamen spears for awhile now. I guess it
just made it to production servers in the latest patch.

Don't bitch about getting your skill up at level 29. It's EASY to get
your skill up at 29... it gets much, much harder later on when even
greens hit for 80.
- https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/iqXgqSJ5VS4J
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List of Shaman Piercing Weapons
Shortest Barbarian On The Block
Dec 10, 1999, 8:00:00 AM

Hail, y'all...

I did a quick check today, and every spear I found on a merchant is now usable.
However, I didn't get to check daggers before work called.

1 - Does anyone know if any regularly available daggers are Shaman-usable?

2 - If anyone with a magic piercing weapon could check it and post here whether
it's Shaman-useable, that'd be great.

3 - Someone please tell me they've added more magic spears to the game.
Pleasepleasplease. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
It appears the patch note referenced changes made to existing vendor-tier spears. I take the above comment to refer to rusty/bronze/fine steel/combine spears which are currently SHM-usable. Notable dropped spears such as the Ashenwood Short Spear and Runed Bone Fork would remain unavailable.

Feb2000 SHM-only spears added

- https://web.archive.org/web/20020830...&pg=1&sortby=4
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Submited by: ozwald of solusek On: 3/8/2000 10:24:52 AM

in response to the question regarding SHAMAN use of the ashenwood shortspear... the answer, unfortunately, is no, shaman cannot use it. HOWEVER...

very recently 5 new shaman only spears have been added to the game, and my god they are AWESOME. they are not easy to come by, and at least 2 of them are no drop. but they do exist. and they are (in order of their difficulty to acquire):

Goblin Sticker: Damage 6, Delay 30, Range 40. +1 stam, +1 wis. magic, lore, no drop. Shaman only. Found on Dazed Goblin Javelliner in Runnyeye.

Dull Wooden Spear: Damage 7, Delay 33, Range 40. +2 wis, +2 agil, +5 cold prot. magic, lore, no drop. Shaman only. Found on Officer Gush in Najena.

Ebon War Spear: Damage 8, Delay 31, Range 40. +4 str, +3 wis, +5 magic prot. Wt. 7. magic, lore item. Shaman only. Found on Soarin Brightfeather in the Ocean of Tears.

Tesch Val Sinisch: Damage 9, Delay 33, Range 40. Wt. 7. +4 wis, +4 int. Effect of Weak Poison. magic lore item. Shaman only. Found in Splitpaw. (Submitted by Canibal)

Darksea Harpoon: Damage 10, Delay 28, Range 40. +5 str, +5 wis, +20 mana, +5 disease prot. Wt. 7. magic, lore item. Shaman only. Dropped by the Fierce Impaler in Kedge Keep.

last note about these spears...they are all ranged weapons, in addition to melee. which of course means you can hold them in your ranged weapon slot if you just want the stat bonuses and in conjunction with another weapon in your primary slot...and the dark sea harpoon? oh my god...10 and 28! that's better then a serrated bone dirk, especially since it gives you the extra wisdom/mana to far outdamage the SBD darkness proc, and is the most effective 1h weapon a shaman has access to.

...but, ummm, yeah...that ASHENWOOD SHORT SPEAR sure is great! ahem. =)
- https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/YJi9tzEd-WkJ
Quote:
Ramuk
Mar 12, 2000, 8:00:00 AM

Shaman have always had piercing skill. Verant envisioned Shaman using spears
from day one, but unfortunately forgot to make spears equipable to them.

For a long time the only peircing weapon available was a bronze main gauche!
This was addressed in a recent patch when several shaman only spears were
introduced.

I haven't seen the rest of the thread, but I assume you are reffering to the
fact that the Fierce Impaler now drops a Darksea harpoon? From other sources
it appears that the Gloomwater is still the common drop, but the cloak has
been replaced with the Darksea.


Correct me if I am wrong.
Quote:
Matt Frisch
Mar 15, 2000, 8:00:00 AM

Shaman have had the piercing skill since opening day last year, and
probably before this going into beta.

What they didn't have before were weapons to use with the skill. Last
couple of patches
have changed this.
- https://groups.google.com/g/alt.game...m/pQ7a86ptjrEJ
Quote:
Alasdair Allan
Mar 28, 2000, 8:00:00 AM

It's strange.

you will find all Wis based casters need Gator Legs because, to be honest,
there is *nothing* else worn on the leg that offers wisdom! There is no
progression in the item.

For example, they recently introduced a range of Shaman Spears. Watch for
the pattern :-

Goblin Sticker 7/30ish Wis+1 Runnyeye
Forget Name 8/33ish Wis+2 Najena
Ebon war Spear 8/30ish Wis+3 Aviak Island, OOT
Tisch Val Sinisch 9/33ish Wis+4 Paw II
Barb fishing Spear 10/31 Wis+5 Permafrost Bear Pit
Darksea Harpoon 10/27 Wis+5 Kedge Keep


See the patter, you get the easy spear at level 15 and work up - level 20
you get the forget Name, level 30 you get the Ebon, level 35 you get the
Sinisch, level 40+ you get a Darksea or Barb Fishing.

Now *that* is item design.

Why doesn't it exist on other items? Why don't they implement *series* of
items instead of individual pieces!

Verant *can* do it right, they simply don't seem to do so consistently.
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It appears four of the spears were added with new NPCs, and two were added to existing ones.

Soarin Brightfeather:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20020127...ne=42&start=75
Quote:
New Named Aviak
By: Angelove
Posted @ Fri, Feb 18th 7:01 PM 2000

Soarin Brightfeather, red to me at 18. Hits around 80 dmg double attack. Non-agro, but will protect other aviaks who are being attacked.
Quote:
Sorain Brightfeather
By: Lindorf
Posted @ Tue, Feb 22nd 4:49 PM 2000

Drops shaman spear .
Officer Grush:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20030915...ne=45&start=75
Quote:
Mob in Najena
Posted @ Sun, Mar 5th 6:43 AM 2000
By: Mimic Kalkhoffi

I see and fight with a new Oger Officer
called Grush
.Is a magic Mob spell Poison
and Root and hit hard.Loot i dont know,first kill only money.What lvl???
For me was blue and i a 30 Shm.Good luck!!!
- https://web.archive.org/web/20030915....shtml?id=3544
Quote:
Dull Wooden Spear
Posted @ Mon, Mar 13th 12:51 PM 2000
By: Wheez

The Shaman-only spear is called the Dull Wooden Spear 7/33, +2wis, +2agi, +5 vs Cold. It is LORE and NO-DROP.
Dazed Goblin Javelineer:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20000510...17&Go=Go&pg=12
Quote:
Submited by: Reynor Schein On: 02/27/2000 6:28:55 PM

Also, in the Dazed Goblin area, we've found the Dazed Goblin Javelineer who carries a Shaman-only no drop Spear called the Goblin Sticker. He appears past the Knight room in a room frequented by shamans. He himself is also a Dazed Shaman and he appeared in the exact same place twice now. Ironically, he hasn't been as rare as the Dazed Knight, though it could just be my luck.
...
Quote:
Submited by: Brodo On: 03/22/2000 3:53:34 PM
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The dazed goblin javelineer drops the Goblin Sticker, a shaman-only piercing weapon. It is not as nice as the other new shaman-only piercing weapons, but it drops off a much lower level MoB than those do.
an injured polar bear:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20030614...tby=2#Comments
Quote:
Submited by: Jeterek Machik On: 3/24/2000 4:53:13 PM
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Now....My plead

Have heard of a Shaman only Spear being dropped from the "Injured Polar Bear" in the pit by the lair to Vox, if any Vox raiders have tracked/seen/or have any information on this, would appreciate a post or a tell on Brell Serellis.
Darksea Harpoon:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20000831...kedgekeep.html
Quote:
[Note: Recently the spawn rate of the Fierce Impaler has been drastically reduced, and the Shaman only Darksea Harpoon has been added as loot. In the days when I hunted the ENTRY HALL, the Gloomwater Harpoon was the common and the Seahorse Scale Cloak the rare.]
...
If you are lucky, however, one of the seahorses will spawn as the SEAHORSE PATRIARCH (Common Drop - Wand of Ice: Magic/Lore/No Drop, 1HB 5/30, Wt. 1.5, Five charges of Ice Shock, Wizard Only, HUM ERU DEF GNM, Rare Drop - Seahorse Scale Cloak: Magic/Lore, AC 8, DEX +6 SV COLD +35, Wt. 3.5, WAR PAL RNG SHD MNK BRD ROG, All Races) The shark will be either a Cauldron Shark, a Cauldron Hammerhead, or a the Ferocious Cauldron Shark which I will discuss in the next section. [Note: The drop of the Seahorse Scale Cloak has recently been changed. This is where I have been told it now drops, though I have not verified this.]
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We see the majority of the spears in question added to EQlizer in Feb-Mar2000:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20001207...ws.cgi?newsall
Quote:
Two New Weapons Posted Friday, February 18, 2000 by jcsmith

I just posted up two new weapons from the last patch. One is a low level quest weapon for necromancers. The other is a decent piercing weapon for shamans. Not sure where the Ebon War Spear comes from exactly. If anyone has any information then feel free to send it in.

New Equipment: Ebon War Spear(SHM), Noclin's Femur.

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New Equipment Posted Sunday, February 20, 2000 by jcsmith

I just posted up five new pieces of equipment. Four of these are new from the last patch. Two of them are the rewards for Paineel quests. The other two are both from the Dark Assassins which have been spotted in various locations of Norrath.
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New Equipment: Bloody Dirk(ROG), Dull Wooden Spear(SHM), Battle Worn Halberd(SHD), Dread Forged Shield(CLR), Bloody Mantle.

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Couple New Items Posted Monday, February 28, 2000 by jcsmith
I just added a couple of new items to the equipment section and the Advanced Searches.

New Equipment: Tesch Val Sinisch(SHM), Fiery Vambraces.

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Equipment Update Posted Tuesday, February 29, 2000 by jcsmith

Alright finally cleaned out the equipment from the mailbox. Still need to go through the quests but here's four new pieces of equipment and two screenshots for older pieces of equipment that lacked them.

New Equipment: Chrysoberyl Talisman, Red Dragon Tooth, Code of Zan Fi, Mithril Frog Totem, Black Silk Gloves, Goblin Sticker(SHM).

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Equipment Update Posted Friday, March 3, 2000 by jcsmith

Alright time for an equipment update and some miscellaneous blabber. Three new pieces of equipment this evening as well as two updates to older pieces of equipment.
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New Equipment: Silver Jacinth Wedding Ring, Robe of the Oracle, Crafted Pauldrun, Darksea Harpoon(SHM), Sharkskin Drum(BRD).
ItemIDs from Lucy (itemlist.txt.gz):
- https://lucy.allakhazam.com/downloads.html
Misc

A comment above mentions the Seahorse Scale Cloak was moved to the Seahorse Patriarch. This might indicate that the Patriarch was only dropping the Wand of Ice initially.

For what it's worth, the following sources suggest the same:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20000301...patriarch.html
- https://web.archive.org/web/20010708...how&BID=284903

Proposed Changes
- Flag NPCs for Feb2000: an injured polar bear, Officer Grush, Soarin Brightfeather, Dazed Goblin Javelineer
- Flag Items for Feb2000: Darksea Harpoon and Tesch Val Sinisch
- Replace Darksea Harpoon with Seahorse Scale Cloak on Fierce Impaler loottable (as the rare) until Feb2000
- Remove Seahorse Scale Cloak from Seahorse Patriarch loottable until Feb2000 if desired
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