Current Sky Schedule

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where's the guild pride!

Anyway I'm just saying that from a communist (utilitarian?) perspective I think a guild who will clear 1-8 is going to make better use of Sky than a guild who will clear 1-5 who will be making better use of Sky than a guild who will do 1-4, and considering how full the rotation is at the moment I'm wondering whether the best solution isn't to have some of the 1-5 and 1-4 guilds raid together.

Like say Rapture and BDA MUAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

BDA has done full clears alone since what, a year or 2 before Rapture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cmon Loraen, step up your game, 12 person full clear?

[xCry0x]

Originally Posted by contemptor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA has done full clears alone since what, a year or 2 before Rapture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cmon Loraen, step up your game, 12 person full clear?

We wouldn't have been able to do sky this week without the BDA paladin alts =(

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by xCry0x [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doing 1-4
Azure guard
Europa(?)

AG does island 5, and soon will be going further i'm sure

[Servellious]

Originally Posted by Dentalplan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a solution that I think could work well for everyone:

Each week one guild takes a week off from raiding sky and gives IB their spot. IB raids during this rotating slot in the schedule and also takes a week off every 10 weeks to keep things equitable. This accomplishes the same thing as an 8 day cycle and doesn't screw up the 7 day setup that works well for keeping corpse banks for keys.

IB should also get the next permanent raiding slot that opens up due to guild merger, lack of interest in sky, etc.

So it would look like this:

Week 1: Sky schedule as normal, IB does not raid sky
Week 2: Rapture's week off. IB Monday
Week 3: FC's week off. IB Tuesday
Week 4: Divinity's week off. IB Wednesday PM
Week 5: Taken's week off. IB Thursday
Week 6: BDA's week off. IB Friday
Week 7: FE's week off. IB Saturday AM
Week 8: AG's week off. IB Saturday PM
Week 9: TMO's week off. IB Sunday AM
Week 10: A-Team's week off. IB Sunday PM

This is a rotation and seems fair to everyone in involved

[salimoneus]

Originally Posted by Servellious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a rotation and seems fair to everyone in involved

...except for the guild who has to rotate for every raid. Don't really see this happening.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by contemptor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA has done full clears alone since what, a year or 2 before Rapture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cmon Loraen, step up your game, 12 person full clear?

I'm pretty sure we can do 1-8 with the new, weaker Eye/Bee . . . if the lag stops. We'll try this weekend for sure and see what we can do.

Originally Posted by salimoneus

...except for the guild who has to rotate for every raid. Don't really see this happening.

In my opinion, telling new guilds "You are late to the rotation, enjoy Tuesday morning" is not reasonable. Telling new guilds "You are late to the rotation, you'll have to change your day a little but at least you'll be going at reasonable times in general" is much, much more reasonable (well, Vehk's solution is terrible because IB would go every 8 days, meaning they would have to recorpse every week. If the order was inverted so IB was going every 6 days with 2 weeks off at the end it would be reasonable).

By my count I used the word reasonable 4 times. That's probably because I'm a reasonable (5) man.

[HallygukRZ]

Europa is doing Sky every 14days before Divinity. We are currently working on getting Spiroc Lord down and want to push on. So if anyone has an early-time slot (1pm-6pm EST) unused, we gladly take one on as well. Ofc we leave a griffon/guardian up. Contact me or any other officer.

[mrmop520]

Originally Posted by xCry0x [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From what I understand the guilds doing full clears are:

BDA
Divinity
FE
Rapture
Taken
TMO

Capable of full clear:
IB?

Doing 1-5
A-team
Full circle

Doing 1-4
Azure guard
Europa(?)

So that means there are currently 6 guilds doing full clears, IB wants to be the 7th.

That is 1 guild per day every day of the week.

If between Full circle, a-team, azure guard, europa forced were joined to do full clears they could also fairly reasonable fit in on sat/sunday and everyone is included assuming those 4 guilds turn into 2 raid forces.
Or we can do a rotation as divinity suggested.

Either way, when the next guild (like prenerf twinkies?) comes along, then what?

I don't speak for everyone but I would be far more inclined to let the next raid guild startup tag along on a raid before I would want to start missing more weeks to accommodate people going up and dicking around on isles 1,2,3.

Anyway, whatever people decide on, I think the rotation is quickly going down the road of completely blowing up either way. The server is at critical mass for raid guilds.

FC is moving on to bees and beyond the next clear we get that is not interrupted. More than capable Lord is easy-mode now. Also the proposed solution that would rotate one of the guilds is fine with FC.

I don't mind giving up a clear every 10 weeks to keep this thing stable (and loraen is right make it 6 days for rotating guild so they dont have to re-key on their non-raid days). FC is also willing to provide an early clear on Tuesdays to guilds that need--However, since we raid on a EST timezone schedule a start time at 10AM or 11AM(est) would be necessary to ensure we can start early enough for a weekday! (7-8pm est)

[quido]

I personally think this is getting a little absurd - what happens when another guild or two wants in? The whole thing is going to crumble.

[pharmakos]

clusterfuck rotation is still better than no rotation imo