Rangers, decent tanks?

[Filwen]

im 42 and have 850 ac buffed. clerics tell me i tank better then a real tank frequently. rangers can tank.

You were getting pwned in efreeti. But you are only 42.

[Ripcord]

yea those are too high yet but kobolds and bnb is fine

[Thac0]

In vanilla EQ rangers and warriors defense cap is pretty similar. With Etched Ivy & Thorny Vine the AC gap is even less.

Come Kunark Rangers have very nice weapons that proc slow (and as any raider in vanilla onward knows, if you can slow it you can tank it, ask any shammy / Enchanter).

In other words the only people who say rangers can't tank are under-geared , dont know the game that well or using it as a segway into a joke that's just about as old as a Titantic (James Cameron) joke..and thus should be beaten with a sock full of hot nickles.

[Melias]

Okay, since I've absorbed far too much info regarding EverQuest over the years....

In the first few months of EverQuest rangers (did it carry over in to Kunark? I don't remember)) had the EXACT same AC softcap as warriors (this I'm unsure of, but the next part I am sure of), and the EXACT same overcap returns. What this meant that as long as a warrior and ranger had the same AC they would see the same tanking ability (if you discounted skill differences).

However, at some point before Kunark this got changed and rangers got their overcap return on AC dropped down to 1/3rd or more of the benefit that warriors see. It's at this point that the tired old "rangers suck," "realistic fetal position," etc. crap started popping up. Warriors were particularly vicious in this since they finally got their status as THE best tank solidified and a lot of rangers did die cause they tried tanking/soloing content that they used to be able to. But tank they still could.

Whether a ranger tanks is all about your willingness to let him. They've solidly been the 4th tank of EverQuest it's entire history with only monks ever really challenging that.

So stop projecting the same tired old jokes onto the rangers around you, and maybe the good ones will LFG instead of sticking to their friends who don't think they're a resurrection waiting to happen.

[rioisk]

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Pooh is playing the part of the tanking Ranger in the above image.

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[Tarvas]

Your either a ranger....or your supporting a ranger. Take your pick.../grins evily

[Jael]

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It wasn't the most well-thought out plan from my perspective, but you're welcome.

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Now if I could just find my bard and my rogue...

[mmiles8]

AC returns after the soft cap has been reached
45%: Warrior
33%: Paladin, ShadowKnight, Monk (Under weight cap)
23%: Cleric, Bard
17%: Ranger, Rogue, Shaman
6%: Druid, Enc, Mag, Nec, Wiz

Shields ignore AC cap regardless of class.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by mmiles8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AC returns after the soft cap has been reached
45%: Warrior
33%: Paladin, ShadowKnight, Monk (Under weight cap)
23%: Cleric, Bard
17%: Ranger, Rogue, Shaman
6%: Druid, Enc, Mag, Nec, Wiz

Shields ignore AC cap regardless of class.

Excuse the noob question, but what is the AC soft cap?

[mmiles8]

Soft Caps
Cloth..........= ~75 worn AC (yes, it really that low)
Leather......= ~100 worn AC
Monk..........= ~120 worn AC (if they are under 15 stone wieght)
Chain.........= ~200 worn AC
Plate .........= ~300 worn AC

This is from GEAR ONLY. Meaning you take all of the items, manually add their AC, and count it toward this total. Not the number in your character sheet. The number in your character sheet is a much more complex formula that includes your agility, defense skill, etc.