New raid rule - whats everyones feeling on this?

[Nietche]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree, spread these fucking mobs out. Who thought it was a good idea to stack everything on Saturday? All sense of competition is completely gone, it basically boils down to the guilds that can form the fastest responding saturday/sunday zergs. There is no fun in this current setup. Regulate less, increase the fun for all.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the competition to find out which 2 members from each guild sitting on a spawn point can /tar and then instant clicky a mob the fastest?

This kind of crap is limited (note: limited doesn't mean eschewed completely) with increased variance (like it was before).

I think I actually agree with Sakuragai (sp?) for the first time ever in that Class C guilds got the shaft. The raid scene is plain boring with the vast majority of repops occurring with regularity every Saturday. The guild who wins is the one with the fastest jav (who can rely on a very short window and thus can poopsock more easily) and who can throw a zerg force together fastest.

[Khaleesi]

Make it so contested raid mobs(boss or otherwise) cannot be tracked(or show in track windows). No more tracking means people just have to be at the right place at the right time and the only guarantee there is server reset/respawns.

Not ideal, but completely removes several issues right away.

[Ennewi]

Raid scene

[Freakish]

Make all the outdoor dragons randomly spawn anywhere in zone.
Make them untrackable.
Make them shout whatever their engage message is when they pop. Trackers see the shout and everyone runs around like idiots until they run into him.
Fay will be fun!

[Ella`Ella]

I originally suggested that if we're reducing variances we need to keep extended windows or remove ext windows and increase variances. I forgot who shot that idea down so, I blame Chest.

[Fountree]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. OP. How does the current fte situation, or "manipulation" or exploitation" as you call it, give one guild any unfair advantage over another? Are we seriously to the point of declaring that a melee class using a Discs is "exploiting"? You people been playing a game of wackamole with supposed manipulations (also known as intended game designs) in this quest to find an excuse as to why you lose dragons more often than the next guy. Its getting ridiculous.

/thread. I dare BDA to come at this lol.

Their response would probably be to change the game code itself to make things "fairer". Eliminate discs in raid settings! These people continue to be dumb as rocks and crybabies.

[salimoneus]

This is the problem with trying to convert a true shared-world environment into a more instance-like environment merely by throwing a book of rules an restrictions at it. There will continuously be a need to invent new rules when the old ones are worked around.

[Grydworn]

Point is, there is no hard Mob left in game. All thouse 32k Mobs are Victims, no matter what. So at this moment every guild simply should facetrack with their two Monks till other solutions come on the table.

[Daldaen]

Can we all agree using SoulFires on raids is stupid and should be removed.

*Unless Paladin, then it's legit.

[Fountree]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we all agree using SoulFires on raids is stupid and should be removed.

*Unless Paladin, then it's legit.

Why is it stupid? I've never gotten a soulfire for any of my raid chars but if you're gonna quest that it's fair game IMO. Since its no drop i don't know if it can be exploited to a degree comparable to an ivandyrs hoop or something. Every guild has equal access and ability to complete the soulfire quest, so in my opinion its fair.