IB and TMO are Skilled at Raiding - Debunked - Page 12

bktroost · #**111** 03-06-2015, 01:57 PM

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I'm no tmo fan but yesterdays class C trak stats..
22:28:19 trak pop
22:30:13 trak fte
22:31:18 trak death
Maybe bda should move up a class and have a go since tmo/ib are obviously exaggerating their efficiency.

So everyone knows that Trak can be killed with just two groups, mathematically. But what this says is that in two minutes of CotH+spyglassing the people that they brought up contained the right composition to down him and had the few people with DA idols and bladestoppers to grab tola and friends.

The kite/peel/engage takes 2 people who know what they are doing and when you take lots of people+lots of experience you get a lot of people who are cross trained to do that job.

TMO/IB are clearly the ones with the largest amount of experienced people on the server.

Because of the rotation collapse, a lot of guilds have had to do some serious digging and these encounters are far more trial and error to get the process right than anything.

The process of teaching players to DA and engage and wait for the right time to jav then bladestopper and kite then DA to throw away aggro then pop DA off to grab aggro, kite more then flop to toss aggro back and keep the mobs running is actually pretty fun. But it takes time for ALL your players to get it right.

I imagine that this is what we are seeing with TMO/IB in pulling maestro, right? New members learning from trial and error how to do the perfect pull, ect.

Taking your time to teach people in a non-OMGERZZEERRRG way is a fantastic testimony to the way that Class C are handling themselves right now. Seems far more of the original Class R mentality to me than I'm experience in Class R right now.

tl;dr= Class C is doing Class R things and Class R is doing Class C things. ?_?

bktroost · #**112** 03-06-2015, 02:03 PM

Side note question. If the original idea that starting the change in Class R was to get us prepped to deal with TMO/IB in Velious, then why does the Taken/BDA/Divinity alliance keep helping each other on the raid scene by killing Tola/friends when that is a very important mechanic to learn. Without them it's "who can mobilize faster and hug the left wall." Seems counter intuitive.

Tiggles · #**113** 03-06-2015, 02:52 PM

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Side note question. If the original idea that starting the change in Class R was to get us prepped to deal with TMO/IB in Velious, then why does the Taken/BDA/Divinity alliance keep helping each other on the raid scene by killing Tola/friends when that is a very important mechanic to learn. Without them it's "who can mobilize faster and hug the left wall." Seems counter intuitive.

Let them squabble I can't wait to eat them alive come Velious.

Juevento · #**114** 03-06-2015, 03:16 PM

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I can't wait to eat

Down boy.

Kekephee · #**115** 03-06-2015, 03:31 PM

Oh sweet baby Jesus

arsenalpow · #**116** 03-06-2015, 04:42 PM

BDA just killed Maestro in under 10 minutes, casual scum record.

Tiggles · #**117** 03-06-2015, 04:52 PM

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Down boy.

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Oh sweet baby Jesus

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BDA just killed Maestro in under 10 minutes, casual scum record.

BDA officer core triple post.

Immersed.

Juevento · #**118** 03-06-2015, 05:07 PM

After all the whining I see Chest and co put up with from the likes of Unbrella and Raev, there is no way in hell I would waste me leisure time to be an officer of a guild on this server.

arsenalpow · #**119** 03-06-2015, 05:13 PM

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BDA officer core triple post.

Immersed.

So juevento and keke are officers in BDA like you're an officer in TMO?

skipdog · #**120** 03-06-2015, 05:36 PM

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After all the whining I see Chest and co put up with from the likes of Unbrella and Raev, there is no way in hell I would waste me leisure time to be an officer of a guild on this server.

You won't be an officer because you are afraid of forum posters being mean?

Sorry, but that is just hilarious.