Rules regarding no-drop items and multiple characters

[Jaleth]

Originally Posted by chipz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken agreed that it is still only your loot.
He said its FFA if you're the only one in the zone. Haha. Joke. Of course no one else can loot it if no one else is there.

Of course a scenario like this can happen, and probably has many times.

Player 1: kills the mob with his main and the item drops with no one in the zone. . . then logs out.
Player 2: logs in while Player 1 is transitioning to their alt

Player 2 doesn't see anyone else in the zone and comes across the corpse with no one else in site. The corpse is still locked most likely.

If player 1's alt is not there in the zone (theoretically traveling to the corpse) when the timer expires Player 2 can then loot the corpse.
I am not saying it is Player 2's item, but he/she did not know the item was claimed rightfully by Player 1 until too late.

I would hope in this scenario something could be worked out by the GM's giving player 1 the looted item, even though it could've been an unintentional "ninja loot".

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Jaleth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course a scenario like this can happen, and probably has many times.

Player 1: kills the mob with his main and the item drops with no one in the zone. . . then logs out.
Player 2: logs in while Player 1 is transitioning to their alt

Player 2 doesn't see anyone else in the zone and comes across the corpse with no one else in site. The corpse is still locked most likely.

If player 1's alt is not there in the zone (theoretically traveling to the corpse) when the timer expires Player 2 can then loot the corpse.
I am not saying it is Player 2's item, but he/she did not know the item was claimed rightfully by Player 1 until too late.

I would hope in this scenario something could be worked out by the GM's giving player 1 the looted item, even though it could've been an unintentional "ninja loot".

The way you work it out is by not ninja'ing the corpse in the first place.

If it's not your kill, it's not your loot. There's nothing subtle or hard to understand there.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by chipz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sirken agreed that it is still only your loot.
He said its FFA if you're the only one in the zone. Haha. Joke. Of course no one else can loot it if no one else is there.

Yeah, pretty sure he meant if you don't have another person there with you to keep claim on the corpse/loot.

[Gain]

You could have a friend click on the corpse (assuming they were in the group for the kill) and lock the corpse down while you log on to your alt.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by jarshale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you killed it, it's yours. Petition quest time if someone steals it.

[Troy]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yeah, methinks the OP just revealed more than he intended about what he sometimes does. Buff bot much?

But is this really true, a killed mob's loot belongs to the player's account, not the char that did the kill?

I did not know that, but if that is the p99 policy, that makes ONE BOXING much more flexible, and is refreshingly nice policy. Because yeah, sometimes you want to camp an item for an alt, and if this is the policy here, that makes it a no problem issue. Just camp to the other char, no worries.

Is it boxing to have one account at character select and another actually in the world?

If not, one could at least greatly minimize the time spent with no character at the camp by hitting "Enter World" on the alt right as the main finishes camping.

That tactic would be more helpful in doing "drop item on ground" style transfers than this situation though since the corpse timer probably wouldn't be up yet anyway by the time the character switch is complete.

[Madbad]

I'm pretty sure they just recently released a PSA about keeping toons at char select for quick logging. It is now frowned upon and possibly bannable. Maybe only for pvp purposes though?

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it does the community a service to show that the same situation can be ruled differently by different GMs. One says it's ok, the other says it's not, so do it at your own risk apparently.

Insulting a person because of a proven ruling made by a GM it shitty, by the way.

Ok, I'm not saying that I'm not a shitty person, but encouraging people (using what's most likely an incomplete look at the situation) directly or indirectly to ninja loot is gonna result in some name calling from me. I don't care if Lord Rogean himself comes to this thread and say's it is cool. It's not, and it's up to the community to enforce our own code of conduct regardless of what is and is not "technically" legal.

[fiveeauxfour]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, I'm not saying that I'm not a shitty person...

"I'm n̶o̶t̶ saying that I'm n̶o̶t̶ a shitty person..."

those "not's" cancel out, ya know =P

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, I'm not saying that I'm not a shitty person, but encouraging people (using what's most likely an incomplete look at the situation) directly or indirectly to ninja loot is gonna result in some name calling from me. I don't care if Lord Rogean himself comes to this thread and say's it is cool. It's not, and it's up to the community to enforce our own code of conduct regardless of what is and is not "technically" legal.

There would be no raid classes and rules if this was remotely possible.