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Old 08-05-2015, 03:11 PM
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So why is post-upgrade loot already dropping in velious raids?
My guess would be it's a mistake and whatever those drops are will be nerfed\reverted as necessary.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:21 PM
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So why is post-upgrade loot already dropping in velious raids?
Need to ask the unpaid, volunteer devs and bug reporters if they wanted to focus on hammering out different versions of hundreds of items across several patches or devote time to bigger issues with the impending release of Velious.

Finding the original stats on some of the items and placing them in the appropriate spot of the time line will take another 100+ hours of research and then data entry and flagging within the database.

There is also the pre-upgrade Velious quest armor, which is nearly undocumented as far as stats go since they only lasted for a few weeks.

I have a spreadsheet that is about 25-30% done of ToV, Kael, and ST items.

Would you like to help?
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:32 PM
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Oh, so it's too hard to research the proper loot drops, so we'll just give the raiders what they want on day one.

The wizards who want ports and translocates though, they have to wait a month or farm wurms in GD because that was nice and easy for Ele & crew to figure out.

What raid guild are you in?
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:43 PM
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Oh, so it's too hard to research the proper loot drops, so we'll just give the raiders what they want on day one.

The wizards who want ports and translocates though, they have to wait a month or farm wurms in GD because that was nice and easy for Ele & crew to figure out.

What raid guild are you in?
Someone's jimmies are rustled.

Easy fixes are easy.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:43 PM
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It's just awfully convenient how the "easy" fixes are the ones that directly benefit you.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:45 PM
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It's just awfully convenient how the "easy" fixes are the ones that directly benefit you.
I've nerfed myself numerous time brohem. Don't start that with me.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:48 PM
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You're right, it's not just about you personally. However, surely you can understand how frustrating it is to be a non-raider and see the raiders enjoying a non-classic timeline while my wizard gets the shaft, so to speak. The "it's classic" argument kind of breaks down. It's hard not to see that as unfair.
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Old 08-05-2015, 03:50 PM
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It's just awfully convenient how the "easy" fixes are the ones that directly benefit you.
The easy fixes happen to be directly quoted in patch notes. Something anyone can CTRL+F for in the Tski database.

Whereas the timelines for item upgrades are rarely mentioned in patch notes. You have to check each individual item, by going through several guild's archived updated and hope they have screenshots or go through several captures of the item listed on Everlore, Allakhazam, EQStratic, etc. Checking to see when the stats changed and to what.

... It is quite clear why one was implemented and the other was not. Please do not complain about what Velious is like if you were not one of those researching or beta testing. I get rather annoyed by people complaining about the state of things at launch when they made no effort themselves to bug report or beta test over the more than 1 year the beta server sat up.
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:15 PM
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Lmao @ Castcalm getting mad @ Ele about various states of classic. Ele is a paragon of classic. He is a prophet upon whose linen robes our filthy fingers cling for a taste of the Absolution that is Classic. Repent of your ways O' Sad Sack Frog, or take this to RNF where we will joust with words
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:16 PM
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On another note, p99 not classic because


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