ToV and pulling mobs.

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It has been proven multiple times over that ppl in wtov are in fact endangering other ppl in the zone, that's not an opinion, it is a hard fact.

You're avoiding ruling on cross wing pulls bc you somehow think that training the guilds in north while you're in west is better than training the guilds in north while you're in north? What? Leapfrogging is part of eq, it happens all the time at naggy, innoruuk, cazic thule, vox and even the kunark dragons. Again these "problems" are not new and they did not crop up with velious. Ppl can drum up whatever rules they want and I'm game to hear them out but right here in the immediate future, no cross wing pulling is a very simple solution to what is currently the biggest issue regarding training other raids in tov.

If it takes you more than an hour to CR in tov then your guild has bigger issues than where to pull the mob and whether or not you get leapfrogged. It takes about ~10 minutes to get a raid force up and running again in tov UNLESS you are being repeatedly trained during your CR by guilds in another wing (an issue that has been happening weekly).