ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by holahouze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had a lot of problems with the D&D storytelling, too.
So, I'm guessing Cersei will name/appoint Jamie to her Queensguard. What do you think?

D&D are simply not great story tellers when compared to GRRM. as for Jaime, i doubt it. Cersei would see her feelings for Jaime as a weakness at this point. While i believe Cersei thinks she stopped the Maggie the Frog prophecy by killing Margarey Tyrell, she is going full on Sith Lord, and won't let Jaime close to her. i think part of the reason she sent him away was because she knew that the wildfire was always an option, and she knows he'd be against that, or would try to stop her.

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

D&D are simply not great story tellers when compared to GRRM.

It seems silly to make apples to apples comparisons here. GRRM is writing a book series and D&D are making a television adaptation. Totally different storytelling platforms and what goes into making each one successful is widely different.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems silly to make apples to apples comparisons here. GRRM is writing a book series and D&D are making a television adaptation. Totally different storytelling platforms and what goes into making each one successful is widely different.

the adaptation work is and always has been fine. my statement (and most of my complaints this season) is directed their original material, the 'non' adaptation work. they simply are not as good of storytellers as GRRM. most of the acting has been fine, but the actual weight of the dialog has been lacking in substance. characters do things that are completely out of character or make no actual sense for that person to be doing. there has been literally no background scheming or plotting by any of the characters. they have been holding our hands and everything has been exactly what it seems on the surface, and it's getting boring. i understood why nothing surprised me before, but seeing as how we are past the books now, there's no reason for me to see everything coming anymore, other than poor storytelling and/or story crafting.

[holahouze]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the adaptation work is and always has been fine. my statement (and most of my complaints this season) is directed their original material, the 'non' adaptation work. they simply are not as good of storytellers as GRRM. most of the acting has been fine, but the actual weight of the dialog has been lacking in substance. characters do things that are completely out of character or make no actual sense for that person to be doing. there has been literally no background scheming or plotting by any of the characters. they have been holding our hands and everything has been exactly what it seems on the surface, and it's getting boring. i understood why nothing surprised me before, but seeing as how we are past the books now, there's no reason for me to see everything coming anymore, other than poor storytelling and/or story crafting.

Excellent post!

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the adaptation work is and always has been fine. my statement (and most of my complaints this season) is directed their original material, the 'non' adaptation work. they simply are not as good of storytellers as GRRM. most of the acting has been fine, but the actual weight of the dialog has been lacking in substance. characters do things that are completely out of character or make no actual sense for that person to be doing. there has been literally no background scheming or plotting by any of the characters. they have been holding our hands and everything has been exactly what it seems on the surface, and it's getting boring. i understood why nothing surprised me before, but seeing as how we are past the books now, there's no reason for me to see everything coming anymore, other than poor storytelling and/or story crafting.

The thing is, you're trying to make an apples-to-apples comparison of totally different platforms.

D&D have a finite amount of space to work with. They have roughly 9 hours to tell a story each season. That means if they want to add more depth to a character, they have to cut out other stuff. If GRRM wants to add more depth, he adds another page to the chapter he's writing.

D&D's decisions may be predictable to you as a book reader who spends time posting on a forum analyzing the show, but D&D are trying to appeal to a wider audience of casual viewers that have not read the books and have significantly less context about Westeros than you do. They have a lot more to answer for.

Honestly, I think a lot of people are looking a gift horse in the mouth here. We got an 8-season, high budget, high fantasy cable series that is universally acclaimed and will actually finish with a proper ending. The fact that this happened at all is amazing.