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Old 11-01-2016, 05:20 PM
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These are somewhat related and sitting on a gradient -- well except HRT for medical issues is different as it's not necessarily cosmetic in nature even if it is elective (for instance if a person with hypogonadism suffers from depression, HRT to see if correcting chemical imbalance is a very obvious direction to approach treating it).

Minor vanity surgeries like boob jobs, nose jobs etc can be described as attempts to make oneself a more desirable sex object I guess, but it's a stretch. It's more likely an issue of personal vanity than a power exchange. I do think there's a certain indignity to them when your appearance already falls within normal bounds but I was fortunate enough to be born 10/10 so I won't throw stones about a temptation I never had to face. The big difference is that although likely a waste of resources, these minor procedures are a quick stop on the path to continuing living your life.

A nosejob doesn't require the ongoing consumption of psychoactive drugs to maintain. A nosejob'd nose is not detectable as such 100% of the time, and a person with a nosejob is not involving unwilling strangers in its sexual fantasies in its day to day life. Nosejobs don't come with a bizarre phony identity and social ruleset that can be used to club people into submitting to playing along with their fetish in public and even force employers to take penalties for refusing to LARP in the workplace so that babygurl can have better orgasms in the lady's restroom during her lunch break (just kidding about that - we all know what HRT does to sex drive).

Transexualism has more in common with wearing a fursuit in public than it does minor cosmetic surgery. The only reason you don't see a furry identity acceptance movement is that grafting animal fur to skin can't yet yield outcomes that even the delusional can call a cosmetic success. As soon as permanent fusing of the fursuit to the body is achievable, furry acceptance and tranny acceptance will be on equal footing.

You will see it in your lifetime if you make it another 60yrs, and the same reasons used to justify playing into imaginary gender categories (they are aren't they? isn't that what these same people constantly argue???) will be used to force people to play along with fursonas in public. Expect to see people with collars and bondage points permanently fused into their bodies, spots to link chains to, even switches you can flip to disable a person's voluntary control of their own body when we get to that level technologically, and you're a sick piece of shit bigot if you don't keep company with them. And out of business if your Chuck-E-Cheese even thinks about not allowing them around the kids. That is who they are and they will kill themself if the majority thinks such people should keep to the red-light district (or adult sims [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) so you had better just stop being a bigot here and now buddy boy or your a murderer.

Meanwhile millions of horny teenagers sucked into the porn matrix make irreversible changes to their bodies that send them down the path of centering their lives around sex and vice and parents can't even stop them if they don't want to lose them to the state home. hungry globalists, among whom the you-know-whoish are disproportionately represented, get a hole lot more fresh meat to chew through and use your long haired, eyeshadowed sons like fleshlights. think of the children.

btw I don't oppose any adult's right to do these things to themselves, and indeed linetrap is probably a multi-multi-millionaire so was it a bad outcome for her? prolly not, even tho she does not remotely pass and came out looking like a very attractive synthetic sex machine and not a female. Btw i respect her pronouns here cuz i don't mind being a part of her sexual fantasy[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (actually she's gross and a bad lay, have you ever watched one of her scenes? lol). They have their rights and I had my freedom of association.

All I'm sayin is that giving trannies purchase in polite society and telling them they are just like real females just cuz you want to fuck a couple examples (who would be more attractive as effeminate boys btw, but you're most likely some form of str8cuck) or you're a marxist-feminist looking to add more people to your category of the class struggle is perhaps not the best thing for the collective mental health of our nation.

i heard brevity is the soul of wit so im gonna stop there while this is still bite sized, bye!
Woah woah woah woe ^^ Discussion just morphed lol. I agree on the social issues of compulsive pandering to delusion, etc (I think we've discussed that before). I was just more curious about body modification, since your original argument was about altering oneself to be a better sex toy. You summarized it better as vanity, which my mind somehow entangles (perhaps inappropriately, will have to ponder) with sexuality. This brief post of yours is an entirely different (though I suppose not mutually exclusive) argument ^^ If we consider the two inseparable though then I see where you are coming from. Which, is probably the case for most part. I just hadn't really thought of It that way.

On another note, I think burros have received quite a lot of love in this thread ^^
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Old 11-01-2016, 05:36 PM
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Woah woah woah woe ^^ Discussion just morphed lol. I agree on the social issues of compulsive pandering to delusion, etc (I think we've discussed that before). I was just more curious about body modification, since your original argument was about altering oneself to be a better sex toy. You summarized it better as vanity, which my mind somehow entangles (perhaps inappropriately, will have to ponder) with sexuality. This brief post of yours is an entirely different (though I suppose not mutually exclusive) argument ^^ If we consider the two inseparable though then I see where you are coming from. Which, is probably the case for most part. I just hadn't really thought of It that way.

On another note, I think burros have received quite a lot of love in this thread ^^
the post is like a fractal. the answer to the question you posed was the seed for the complex pattern that grew out of it. morphed is the right word.

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Old 11-01-2016, 05:53 PM
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the post is like a fractal. the answer to the question you posed was the seed for the complex pattern that grew out of it. morphed is the right word.

im proud of it. 1 of my best works.
It is beautiful and quite took me by surprise tbh ^^ Clearly, it is yours. Nevertheless, I am truly humbled to have been able to contribute to it even if out of nothing more than my own ignorance. ^^
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Old 11-01-2016, 07:09 PM
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These are somewhat related and sitting on a gradient -- well except HRT for medical issues is different as it's not necessarily cosmetic in nature even if it is elective (for instance if a person with hypogonadism suffers from depression, HRT to see if correcting chemical imbalance is a very obvious direction to approach treating it).

Minor vanity surgeries like boob jobs, nose jobs etc can be described as attempts to make oneself a more desirable sex object I guess, but it's a stretch. It's more likely an issue of personal vanity than a power exchange. I do think there's a certain indignity to them when your appearance already falls within normal bounds but I was fortunate enough to be born 10/10 so I won't throw stones about a temptation I never had to face. The big difference is that although likely a waste of resources, these minor procedures are a quick stop on the path to continuing living your life.

A nosejob doesn't require the ongoing consumption of psychoactive drugs to maintain. A nosejob'd nose is not detectable as such 100% of the time, and a person with a nosejob is not involving unwilling strangers in its sexual fantasies in its day to day life. Nosejobs don't come with a bizarre phony identity and social ruleset that can be used to club people into submitting to playing along with their fetish in public and even force employers to take penalties for refusing to LARP in the workplace so that babygurl can have better orgasms in the lady's restroom during her lunch break (just kidding about that - we all know what HRT does to sex drive).

Transexualism has more in common with wearing a fursuit in public than it does minor cosmetic surgery. The only reason you don't see a furry identity acceptance movement is that grafting animal fur to skin can't yet yield outcomes that even the delusional can call a cosmetic success. As soon as permanent fusing of the fursuit to the body is achievable, furry acceptance and tranny acceptance will be on equal footing.

You will see it in your lifetime if you make it another 60yrs, and the same reasons used to justify playing into imaginary gender categories (they are aren't they? isn't that what these same people constantly argue???) will be used to force people to play along with fursonas in public. Expect to see people with collars and bondage points permanently fused into their bodies, spots to link chains to, even switches you can flip to disable a person's voluntary control of their own body when we get to that level technologically, and you're a sick piece of shit bigot if you don't keep company with them. And out of business if your Chuck-E-Cheese even thinks about not allowing them around the kids. That is who they are and they will kill themself if the majority thinks such people should keep to the red-light district (or adult sims [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) so you had better just stop being a bigot here and now buddy boy or your a murderer.

Meanwhile millions of horny teenagers sucked into the porn matrix make irreversible changes to their bodies that send them down the path of centering their lives around sex and vice and parents can't even stop them if they don't want to lose them to the state home. hungry globalists, among whom the you-know-whoish are disproportionately represented, get a hole lot more fresh meat to chew through and use your long haired, eyeshadowed sons like fleshlights. think of the children.

btw I don't oppose any adult's right to do these things to themselves, and indeed linetrap is probably a multi-multi-millionaire so was it a bad outcome for her? prolly not, even tho she does not remotely pass and came out looking like a very attractive synthetic sex machine and not a female. Btw i respect her pronouns here cuz i don't mind being a part of her sexual fantasy[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (actually she's gross and a bad lay, have you ever watched one of her scenes? lol). They have their rights and I had my freedom of association.

All I'm sayin is that giving trannies purchase in polite society and telling them they are just like real females just cuz you want to fuck a couple examples (who would be more attractive as effeminate boys btw, but you're most likely some form of str8cuck) or you're a marxist-feminist looking to add more people to your category of the class struggle is perhaps not the best thing for the collective mental health of our nation.

i heard brevity is the soul of wit so im gonna stop there while this is still bite sized, bye!
Very reasonable and all around 5-star post. They are in a tough spot here because the only argument against this would be that these kinds of gender identity issues are disabilities we need to accommodate medically and socially, except if you admit they are disabilities you are also admitting they are non-normative and accepting that they are deviant, which goes against the house of cards they've been building the last 10 years.
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A nosejob'd nose is not detectable as such 100% of the time
Unless you were Michael or Latoya Jackson. Pretty sure Stevie Wonder could detect that both of their noses were nosejob'd.
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Unless you were Michael or Latoya Jackson. Pretty sure Stevie Wonder could detect that both of their noses were nosejob'd.
Jacksons are to nosejobs what Divine is to trannies

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Old 11-08-2016, 06:31 PM
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Big J, well thought out but I think a big fallacy you fall for here is not recognizing that transgender and nonbinary people are to entirely separate camps who hate each other.

you can blame society and sex fetishes and liberalism for an increase in people transitioning -- some i'm sure due to awareness/acceptance, but there is definitely a good degree of people transitioning who shouldn't be these days. but there will always be a certain (small) population of endemically transgender people. even among mtf/ftm's there are very distinct camps -- true-trans, autogynephiliac, and swoopy hair transtrenders to name a few.

you start making very incorrect statements once you lump them all together. that's a pretty fair criticism of nonbinary people and also probably autogynephiliacs and tumblr transtrenders but it doesn't really address endemically transgender people or in my opinion apply to them.

point is, endemically trans people hate the other groups because they feel as if their existence is de-legitimized by being lumped in with 50 year old men who want to jerk off in the ladies room. and annoying SJW's who want you to read a 72 page pamphlet on gender identities before talking to them. most endemically transgender people believe in a gender binary of male/female and simply feel as if their body does not reflect the same binary which their mind does or something. a lot of them are very vocal about how stupid they think this shit is.
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it's not your fault though, fuck the "lgbtqia movement"
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